[Cynnabar] From the Minutes

[Monique Rio]

Oops, I forgot about that.

I think the main question is, is it possible to have a fundraiser
without a specific need?

So:

Fencers request to have fundraiser. (Without any project in mind)
Fundraiser gets approved.
Monies procured.
Fencers later have some request that doesn't violate any Corporate or
Kingdom Policies.
Fencers request that earmarked money be used for that.

Would that work?

-Jadzia

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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Shefferly, Charles <CShefferly at lear.com> wrote:
> No!
> T-shirts for the fencers would be benefiting specific individuals. This would be a violation of the Corporate and Kingdom policies.
>
> The fundraiser was requested for the specific purpose of future purchase/replacement of loaner gear.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monique Rio [mailto:nique.rio at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:01 AM
> To: Shefferly, Charles
> Cc: barony at cynnabar.org
> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] From the Minutes
>
> So the thing that gets approved is having the fundraiser at all. Does
> the fundraiser have to be for a specific thing? It sounds like it
> doesn't...
>
> Let's say we have the following situation:
>
> Fencers request "fundraiser" for future purchase/replacement of loaner
> equipment.
> Fundraiser gets approved by Barony
> Fundraiser happens. Money is procured.
> Fencers later decide they want fencing T-shirts.
> Fencers request to use fundraiser money for T-shirts.
>
> Would fencers be able to use money for T-shirts or some other fencing
> related expense that's not loaner equipment?
>
> -Jadzia
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Shefferly, Charles <CShefferly at lear.com> wrote:
>> Pretty close :)
>>
>> 1) Fencers request to have a "fundraiser" (lunch tavern, bake sale, whatever) where the profits will be placed toward the future purchase/replacement of loaner equipment
>>
>> 2) The group (i.e. Barony) approves the request, using the normal approval process
>>
>> 3) The fencers hold their "fundraiser". All monies and receipts turned into the Exchequer and profits determined
>>
>> 4) The monies will be deposited into the Baronial account, and an entry is made on the Exchequer's reports that the fencers have "x" amount of money available for loaner equipment purchase/replacement
>>
>> 5) Later Lord Arnolde, comes to the group with the request to purchase/replacement some loaner gear
>>
>> 6) The Exchequer confirms the amount available in the dedicated funds for the fencers use
>>
>> 7) If the request is less than or equal to the dedicated amount, the order can be placed, there is no discussion required by the group for approval as the money has been already approved and dedicated for this use.
>>
>> 7a) If the request is greater than the dedicated amount the difference will need to follow the NORMAL approval process, unless it is urgent and the difference is $50 or less, then the schenshal can approve the expenditure.
>>
>> 8) A check can be issued, one the receipt is provided to the Exchequer, and the item removed from the dedicated funds list.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Monique Rio [mailto:nique.rio at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:30 AM
>> To: Shefferly, Charles
>> Cc: barony at cynnabar.org
>> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] From the Minutes
>>
>> Hi AElfric,
>>
>> I'm a bit confused about the clarification.
>>
>> It sounds like the situation is this:
>>
>> Fencers have a general fundraiser.
>> Proceeds from fundraiser go into general account.
>> Later Lord Arnolde suggests fencers purchase loaner gear.
>> Fencers approve of this expenditure.
>> Money earmarked for fencers can be used for loaner gear. (Presumably
>> without having to wait a month to get approved.)
>>
>> Is that right?
>> -Jadzia
>>
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>> http://www.blowthyhorn.com ~ Choir Directing & Early Music
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Shefferly, Charles <CShefferly at lear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> 12th Night
>>> Sat, Jan 8, 2011
>>> Dixboro United Methodist Church
>>>
>>> 5221 Church Road
>>> Ann Arbor, MI  48105
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Amyon asked Lord Arnolde if he and the fencers would be interested in hosting the Lunch Tavern as a fundraiser at 12th NIght. He said it might help their interest if the fencers could use it as a fundraiser to purchase loaner fencing equipment. They would purchase, prepare and serve the Lunch Tavern.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bjarki stated there are two options:
>>>
>>> Option 1
>>>
>>> 1. If the fundraiser is done by a group representing the Barony it goes to the general fund.  If the group needs an item.  They can bring
>>>
>>>    the proposal to the group, hold a fundraiser to offset the costs of the item, then ask the Barony to help purchase the item if the fundraiser
>>>
>>>    was not enough.
>>>
>>> 2. They cannot have a fundraiser and keep the profits to use at a later time for their specific group.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Option 2
>>>
>>> A fundraiser can be held in the name of an individual representing himself.
>>>
>>>     1. For example, Person A  could have a fundraiser to raise money for their own fighting equipment.
>>>
>>>     2, They would have to use their own money to purchase food and supplies.
>>>
>>>     3. They  could then use any profits for purchasing their equipment.
>>>
>>>     4. They could not expect any assistance from the Barony.
>>>
>>>     5. They could not say I am doing this as in the name of the Barony.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone is interested in hosting the Lunch Tavern as a fundraiser please contact the Seneschal.  More discussion to follow.
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless there has been an Exchequer rule change that I missed. Bjarki's statement for Option#1 is incorrect. IF the GROUP APPROVES that the profits from the lunch tavern can be dedicated for the fencers to use toward the purchase of loaner equipment. This is OK, the moneys would be listed on the Exchequers dedicated funds list, and held by in the Baronial acct. We've done this before
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> AElfric
>>>
>>>
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