[Cynnabar] Wrangling the Can of Worms

Ann Asplund asplund.ann at gmail.com
Fri Sep 16 16:26:53 UTC 2011


Me too. A very solomonius solution.

Arin

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Monique Rio <mrio at umich.edu> wrote:
> I agree with this.
>
> -Jadzia
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Dennis Higgins <mortisfan at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Taking off the Seneschal hat…
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, here is my personal opinion on the subject.
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>>
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>> Generalist vs. Specialty events
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>> Yes, have some. They’re both tasty.
>>
>>
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>> Should we compensate certain people that come to Cynnabar events?
>>
>> I think the only people that should always be offered compensation is
>> Royalty. Any other offered compensation (full or partial) should be
>> determined by the Autocrat and approved by the Barony during the event
>> proposal process. This would give each event the flexibility needed to be
>> successful. Trying to put any other policy in place, especially when trying
>> to balance out help/volunteerism across multiple events (I helped at X event
>> but get to play at Y event) gets unwieldy. If someone doesn’t agree with a
>> compensation proposal, they can come to the business meetings and let their
>> voice be heard, then the Barony can decide if they want to support the event
>> proposal or not.
>>
>>
>>
>> If some level of compensation is agreed on, should we make this a Cynnabar
>> policy?
>>
>> Something should be written down but should be flexible. The above “Royalty
>> always offered compensation and others at the discretion of the Autocrat to
>> be built into the event budget and agreed upon by the Barony as part the
>> event proposal process” could cover all the bases and be simple enough to
>> work for everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, these are my personal opinions on how things could work. The Barony
>> as a group will end up agreeing on the ultimate way we want to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> I now return you to your regularly scheduled program…
>>
>>
>>
>> -Finn
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>> From: barony-bounces at cynnabar.org [mailto:barony-bounces at cynnabar.org] On
>> Behalf Of Cynnabar Seneschal
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:31 AM
>> To: 'Cynnabar'
>> Subject: [Cynnabar] Wrangling the Can of Worms
>>
>>
>>
>> These are all great discussions. It very nice when people with different
>> opinions on how something should happen can express their viewpoints and
>> have the other side listen and discuss back and forth.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've know other groups that would have had this turn into a giant flame-war
>> and we'd be standing among heaps of ashes by now. While this discussion has
>> only been going on a few days (an eternity really in the on-line age), it's
>> generated 50+ e-mails on it, it's good to see the level of civilly we still
>> have.
>>
>>
>>
>> Below are the topics I see being bantered about. Each dovetail into each
>> other but really are their own standalone questions.
>>
>>
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>> Generalist vs. Specialty events
>>
>> It appears that in general, no one is arguing against having specialty
>> events as long as the budget and group support is there.
>>
>> Should we compensate certain people that come to Cynnabar events?
>>
>> OK, Royalty seems to be a given. But other than that, should others be given
>> free or reduced site fees? The discussion seems to range from yes for only
>> specialist volunteers (all day musicians/teachers), to yes for anyone that
>> puts in some help, to no, since we are volunteer organization and we help at
>> one event while get to play at others. And there is a lot of gray area
>> in-between where that “compensation scale” can slide from “no-one gets
>> comped” to “donation only format”.
>>
>>
>>
>> If some level of compensation is agreed on, should we make this a Cynnabar
>> policy?
>>
>> This is basically who should decide who gets compensated. Do we try write
>> something down covering all bases to use as our guideline/policy for going
>> forward in the future? Or do we leave it up to the Autocrat/event
>> coordinator  to determine as part of their event proposal/budget?
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t think this discussion is over and I encourage it to continue
>> (civilly of course J ). I will however, plan on setting aside some time at
>> the end of the next Baronial business meeting (on the 26th) to continue this
>> discussion in person as well. For in the end, it will be at the group
>> meetings where we, as a Barony, will make the decision on what we want to
>> do.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Finn
>>
>> Seneschal
>>
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