[Cynnabar] Grand Day Proposal

Mon Dec 14 21:01:12 UTC 2015

Mistress Giovanna,

Then I have no issues with this proposal, that I can think of at this
time.  Sounds like it could potentially be really useful for future event
stewards of Pentamere.

~Birke

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Anne Stevenson <astevensonhp at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Exactly! Thanks for the clarified wording.
>
> Giovanna
> On Dec 14, 2015 3:33 PM, "Kell Carnahan" <wyndsung at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To clarify:
>>
>> This is more involved for the Event Steard (you, Giovanna) and the people
>> who sign on as Deputies to shadow the Event Steward.  Those people design
>> the event as a team and participate in classes on the various parts of
>> running an event.
>>
>> All the other staff positions - marshals, lunch tavern, gate, whomever
>> else - will operate as per a normal event, but can jump into the classes if
>> they wish to also learn about the other parts of running the event.  So the
>> MIC position and workload is essentially unchanged.
>>
>> Is that correct?
>> ~Birke
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Anne Stevenson <astevensonhp at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> This is a great question, thank you!
>>>
>>> In many ways I imagine this process will feel very similar to running
>>> any other event/Grand Day - we will have an event steward and then all of
>>> the appropriate staff heads.
>>>
>>> Some of these staff heads will be Deputies to the Event Steward too, and
>>> will be "shadowing" to learn more, not only about their particular areas,
>>> but also event stewarding in general.  They can participate in the
>>> workshops (which I plan to organize, be part of the behind the scenes
>>> discussion on relevant event stewarding topics), etc.  Some staff will not
>>> be interested in all these details of event planning, but will still be
>>> part of the staff and we will work all together as a whole, trying to
>>> fulfill the vision of the event as stated in the proposal.
>>>
>>> Does this answer your question some?  I will give it more consideration
>>> too and see what more I can do to explain.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Giovanna
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Kell Carnahan <wyndsung at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mistress Giovanna,
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like an interesting and useful concept.
>>>>
>>>> How will it affect the MIC job, or the fighting in general?  Will each
>>>> staff member - including MICs - be required to participate more in overall
>>>> event planning/teaching their event planning steps, or have a deputy for
>>>> their position?  Or is it mostly to additionally shadow the event steward
>>>> and overall job of putting together the event?
>>>>
>>>> Speaking as someone who is considering being rapier MIC again next year
>>>> (if I'm asked to be), I'm wondering if this adds any additional work for
>>>> that position.
>>>>
>>>> ~Birke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Art Sinclair via Barony <
>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ah! That puts an entirely different spin on it! I apologize for not
>>>>> reading deeply enough between the lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any issues with this plan being put forward with you as
>>>>> steward.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I can be of any assistance with you in this endeavor I would be
>>>>> glad to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tairdelbach
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They deem me mad for I will not sell my days for gold; I deem them mad
>>>>> for they think my days have a price.
>>>>> -- Kahlil Gibran
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Anne Stevenson <
>>>>> astevensonhp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning again!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My apologies if I was unclear in my proposal - my idea is that this
>>>>>> is my proposal to be the event steward for the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a non-traditional proposal, because I am hoping that the
>>>>>> actual proposal writing process will be part of the learning process for
>>>>>> those that volunteer to be part of the staff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please feel free to ask more questions - I don't want to derail the
>>>>>> normal process, when the normal process is what I am trying to teach!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the group would rather, I can certainly bring a event proposal
>>>>>> first, but I was hoping that my Deputies could work on it with me as part
>>>>>> of the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giovanna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Art Sinclair <tairdelbach at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it's a great to find educational opportunities like
>>>>>>> this. That being said I have some concerns and, since I am not able to
>>>>>>> attend the meeting tonight, I put them forward here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My concern here is that it comes ahead of any proposal for the event
>>>>>>> itself, and therefore identification of who the event steward will be. As
>>>>>>> such I'm worried that it proposes an internal "sub-theme", outside the
>>>>>>> typical scope of the event, that any prospective event steward would be
>>>>>>> required to adopt. The group has long shied away from stewards being
>>>>>>> micromanaged by the group and this seems to me to fall into that territory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like this idea in general and would support any steward who wanted
>>>>>>> to provide this sort of educational opportunity with any event the Barony
>>>>>>> hosts. I would prefer that it accompany the formal event proposal so that
>>>>>>> the group can be assured that the approved event steward is fully on board
>>>>>>> with the idea and not just taking it on because the group previously
>>>>>>> decided that this is what the group wanted for a particular event.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>> Tairdelbach
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They deem me mad for I will not sell my days for gold; I deem them
>>>>>>> mad for they think my days have a price.
>>>>>>> -- Kahlil Gibran
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Anne Stevenson via Barony <
>>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good morning!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to reach out to let you know that I will be at tonight's
>>>>>>>> meeting and will be bringing a proposal for Grand Day of Tournaments 2016.
>>>>>>>> It will not be the proposal for the event itself, but instead it will be a
>>>>>>>> proposal for the event to be utilized as an event steward teaching
>>>>>>>> opportunity.  Please see attached document.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are interested and able to make it tonight's meeting - I'd
>>>>>>>> love to see you there!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>> Giovanna
>>>>>>>>
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