[Cynnabar] events

Matt Lagemann via Barony barony at cynnabar.org
Wed Jan 27 16:07:03 UTC 2016


With that in mind the people who decide where those "minor kingdom events"
are being held may want to encourage smaller groups to hold those events as
a way to make some money.

Another possibility is to encourage larger groups to have smaller groups
take over some small aspect of the event that can generate money.  I have
seen shires and cantons run the lunch tavern and/or feast and keep the
proceeds to help fill their coffers.



On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Greg Less via Barony <barony at cynnabar.org>
wrote:

> Hi All-
>
>     I sent the following to Curia:
>
>
> *   There is currently some healthy discussion happening in Cynnabar about
> the proposed change to the 100 mile rule. I know it was brought up at the
> last Curia meeting and discussed there, but I was unfortunately unable to
> hear all of the details. *
>
> *    It's been asked "What's driving the initiative? Who are the primary
> stakeholders [for the change to a 150 mile radius]?" *
>
> *   Can anyone clarify that for me?*
>
>
> And the reply from the Kingdom Seneschal:
>
>
>
>
>
> *Honestly, event attendance is being cannibalized due to too many events
> on the calendar being too close together.  It is impacting smaller groups
> to the point that some have very small allotments for operational costs
> because of little to no profit for their events.Stakeholders are smaller
> groups that are getting tromped by larger groups (baronies mostly) having a
> more than two events annually.One of the other things that we started
> talking about were "minor kingdom events" being bid in advance too.   TOC,
> Rose Tourney, RUM, Regional A&S, etc having a more defined and regular time
> frame so they can be tacked on to an existing event bid, well in advance,
> so other groups in the area avoid the date.  That is just beginning to
> coalesce and will take a lot more hashing out to make it feasible.  If
> smaller groups can take some of those "minor" events, then it can be growth
> opportunities for the group.*
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> -Gregoire.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Johnna Holloway via Barony <
> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>
>> Are there really too many events?
>>
>> The big events are well known and they calendar
>> at roughly the same time each year. Maidens is in January. Twelfth Nights
>> come before.
>> Valentine's Day is February 14th and Sometime near that date, there will
>> be held a massacre.
>> The border wars, baroness wars, interkingdom raids, crossings, PW
>> practices, etc. follow along
>> in the good weather. (The established big events offer the intrinsic
>> combinations of shopping, fighting, seminars,
>> and good company; think about why you attend and plan months out to
>> attend certain events.)
>>  We also know roughly when the Coronations and Crowns, Gulf War, and
>> Pennsic will be.
>> Larger and legacy events are already regional efforts or even kingdom
>> efforts. We just don't see the work of the many individuals
>> which step up to work for the event. Be they in the kitchen, on the field
>> as extra marshals for archery, youth, retainers, etc. outside people always
>> work those events. We just don't always recognize those efforts.
>> Kingdom A&S always relies on as many as 60-80 extra people who come to
>> judge and tally.
>>
>> The basic factors haven't changed. Whether or not someone
>> or a family attends any event depends in large part on costs, distance,
>> and advance PR. Will the
>> Crown be present? Are their friends or household meeting up at the event?
>> What activities draw people?
>> Will people travel more this summer since the price of gas is down? Or
>> will smaller events suffer because
>> they are competing with SCA50 Year in June?
>> Do we have actual survey information as to who attends what and why? What
>> are the factors?
>> If the choice is between two events, why one and not another?
>> How far will they drive for a day trip? Do events that actively post on
>> Facebook and social media
>> draw more people these days?
>>
>> With all the specialist events these days, it doesn't seem to me the rule
>> needs to change.
>> The dance event does not draw the same audience as the rapier event 101
>> miles away in a
>> different state. If they were 40 miles away, they still wouldn't draw the
>> same audience.
>> The heraldry event will not interest the families with children who are
>> into youth combat.
>> If you are heading to SCA50 Year, you may not attend Pennsic this year
>> and you may skip Crown.
>> Should we worry about that?
>>
>> Johnnae
>>
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