From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 1 11:53:55 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Kay Jarrell via Barony) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 06:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] March premeeting workshops - special request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I remember doing 2 workshops on masks in my life since grade school. One we built the mask body from "papier mache", and then painted it a later time. The other we decorated existing commercial domino masks using hot glue guns and stitching to attach all sorts of beads, ribbon, fabric and found objects. That method, or one that starts with an existing papier mache mask would be "safe" for the space we have, as there is no water available. Kay On Feb 28, 2017 12:09 PM, "Greg Less via Barony" wrote: > Hi All - > > Not sure about other time periods, but here is an interesting article > on women's masks in the 16th Century, complete with a rough idea of how to > make one... > > http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/visard-mask-elizabethan > -visor-blank-16th-century?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=atlas-page > > -Gregoire. > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> This is a special request for someone to lead a discussion on festival >> or theater masks suitable for use at the Terpsichore Ball! What did masks >> look like... what modern workarounds can we employ... where to get >> materials. March 13 and 20 are still open. 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URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 1 12:24:38 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Johnna Holloway via Barony) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 07:24:38 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] March premeeting workshops - special request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A955DD6-74CC-4DAF-B746-45BFA8529AEE@mac.com> Take a look at http://www.trystancraft.com/costume/2010/02/05/an-introduction-to-masks-in-16th-century-venice-italy/ Johnnae Sent from my iPad > On Mar 1, 2017, at 6:53 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony wrote: > > I remember doing 2 workshops on masks in my life since grade school. One we built the mask body from "papier mache", and then painted it a later time. The other we decorated existing commercial domino masks using hot glue guns and stitching to attach all sorts of beads, ribbon, fabric and found objects. That method, or one that starts with an existing papier mache mask would be "safe" for the space we have, as there is no water available. > > Kay > >> On Feb 28, 2017 12:09 PM, "Greg Less via Barony" wrote: >> Hi All - >> >> Not sure about other time periods, but here is an interesting article on women's masks in the 16th Century, complete with a rough idea of how to make one... >> >> http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/visard-mask-elizabethan-visor-blank-16th-century?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=atlas-page >> >> -Gregoire. >> >>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Margaret Kelly via Barony wrote: >>> This is a special request for someone to lead a discussion on festival or theater masks suitable for use at the Terpsichore Ball! What did masks look like... what modern workarounds can we employ... where to get materials. March 13 and 20 are still open. If there is interest and time I will also organize a work day. >>> >>> Please contact me if you are willing to help! >>> >>> YIS, Aeffe Torsdottir, MOAS >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 1 18:55:21 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Kay Jarrell via Barony) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:55:21 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] March premeeting workshops - special request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And The Honorable Lady and indefatigable researcher Johnna illyn Lewis sent this interesting article earlier today: http://www.trystancraft.com/costume/2010/02/05/an-introducti on-to-masks-in-16th-century-venice-italy/ Kay *Kay Jarrell* 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 kjarrell at gmail.com HOME: 734-913-4053 CELL: 734-645-3175 On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Kay Jarrell wrote: > I remember doing 2 workshops on masks in my life since grade school. One > we built the mask body from "papier mache", and then painted it a later > time. The other we decorated existing commercial domino masks using hot > glue guns and stitching to attach all sorts of beads, ribbon, fabric and > found objects. That method, or one that starts with an existing papier > mache mask would be "safe" for the space we have, as there is no water > available. > > Kay > > On Feb 28, 2017 12:09 PM, "Greg Less via Barony" > wrote: > >> Hi All - >> >> Not sure about other time periods, but here is an interesting article >> on women's masks in the 16th Century, complete with a rough idea of how to >> make one... >> >> http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/visard-mask-elizabethan >> -visor-blank-16th-century?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=atlas-page >> >> -Gregoire. >> >> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> This is a special request for someone to lead a discussion on festival >>> or theater masks suitable for use at the Terpsichore Ball! What did masks >>> look like... what modern workarounds can we employ... where to get >>> materials. March 13 and 20 are still open. If there is interest and time >>> I will also organize a work day. >>> >>> Please contact me if you are willing to help! >>> >>> YIS, Aeffe Torsdottir, MOAS >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Sun Mar 5 13:29:17 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Cynnabar Seneschal via Barony) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 08:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] 20170227 Barony of Cynnabar Business Meeting Notes Message-ID: Greetings! I have to be away Monday 3/13 due to family business. Master Derian will moderate the meeting. Event Proposals for GDoT are #1 on the 3/13/17 agenda to make it possible for potential Stewards to present and discuss proposals together. Kay 20170227 Barony of Cynnabar Business Meeting Notes BOULEVARD Room, [Last Time] Pierpont Commons. NEXT WEEK Center Room, Pierpont Commons Workshop 6:30 to 7:15. _ 10 _ attendees Meeting 7:30- 8:30. _16 _ attendees. Some different than the workshop? Attending: Straum, Clair Fitzwilliam, Alexander von Lubeck, Gregor Reinherdt von Holstein, Genoneva von Lubeck, Eadraed, Maz von Augburg, Cenet Pe?tuch [*forgive me, I cannot read your hand*], Godaeth se Wisfaest, Aeffe Torsdottir, Hannah Schreiber, Tairdelbach ua Conall, Derian le Breton, Ursula Georges, Kasha Alekseeva, Ermenrich von Duisburg, Kay *Workshop Topics:* *Tonight was* *Monday, Feb. 27:* *Entering an SCA Arts and Sciences competition * Meeting began at _7:39_pm. *Upcoming Baronial Events and Demos* *Terpsichore at the Tower **April 1, 2017 Lord Gavriil.* St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. *B**udget $500* Breakeven: 50. ? LUNCH TAVERN: *Harkon?s Bid *for this activity Appears under *New Business* ? Masked Ball: Midair will be Master of Ceremonies. o Can anyone teach a workshop on Mask Making in March? Contact Aeffe to book this. ? Sign Up for Volunteers will start soon. Still need some more Staff members in leadership roles. Contact Gavriil. ? See the Facebook Page and the Event Website for Gavriil?s contact info *Spring Revel Sunday April 23, 2017* Steward: Lady Alana Elenora $220 Island Park New Shelter (with bathrooms) Beer and Wine Permit arranged. ? Start- Noon. Practices (Armored Combat, Defense, Dancing) 12-3 pm ? Baronial Photo 3:00 -4:00 ? *Wear Red if you can this year.* ? Court approx 4:00 pm ? Potluck 5:00 pm after Court Staff News from Ms. Alina: she is seeking a Marshall of Dance, but the first volunteer has had to step out. *St Cecelia at The Tower *May 20-21* 2017 *St Paul?s Church Saline & M-Union Anderson Rooms* Ms Jadzia. Budget $400 ($200 per 10/17 notes.) *Donations at the Door. No Report *Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 Site is reserved. Funding *Deposit should go on the Agenda in January. Pay in March? ? One Bid was presented tonight. SEE New Business. ? *Please bring your bids March 13, 2017. It is the deadline.* ? *GDoT Bids will be the FIRST item of business on 3/13/17.* *Old Business* *Terpsichore Printing: Gavriil $190 *for Dance Books, Class Schedules, Misc signs and other items.* 3rd of 3 meetings* *Approved* ? The original Budget for the event had $150 for printing. The $40 adjustment is to print some extra Book copies, plus signage. Any extra after printing will be reserved for emergencies associated with this event. ? Gavriil spoke with Ms. Alina. He will produce the same book count as 2016. 200 books yielded 60-70 extra copies for cash sale. *Exchequer Office Supplies. $50.00-$75.00 Lady Ilse 2nd of 3 meetings* *No Objections* ? Needs: New water proof file boxes, file folders, Hanging File folders. No objections were raised. Kay suggests a larger dollar amount, as o shopping has been done yet. ? Max may have free hanging files to donate. *Kingdom 12th Night Reports missing: * Lady Ilse, Baronial Exchequer, reports that Kingdom Exchequer did not have the NMR report or remittance or the event report and profit share remittance from the Kingdom 12th Night held on January 7th in the barony. As of Noon 2/27/17 the 2016 check on Reports and submissions was complete. All Items were reported by the Stewards of those events. !2th Night: all items have been located. The final counts were reported to Kingdome Exchequer this weekend so she would be able to submit her report by 2/28/17, Tuesday. The report is underway and will be complete and submitted by March 9. *Check in on this issue 3/13/2017* *Deputy Seneschal (Drop Dead)* ?Derian Le Breton has kindly accepted this position. ? Seneschal post will open up in Spring or Summer 2017. ? Derian is considering taking the position. Please be nice to him. Thanks! Kay *Officer vacancies to be filled:* 1. Chatelaine ? Possible Applicant is Eidy. 2. Minister of Youth ? Ze?ev Ben Ami (Adi Peshkess) has expressed interest on FB. 3. Office of Group Marshal for Archery ? This is the Reporting part of the work. Lady Godaeth will continue as liaison and scheduler for practices held on private land *New Business* (includes items potentially requiring budget outlays) *Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 *Liberty School, Saline MI.* Mistress Genoveva Steward $2260 breakeven 174 (may change) 1st of 3 Meetings* I have asked Mistress Genoveva to send out her event proposal electronically. Meanwhile here are some notes about the discussion ? Site and date as booked. ? Add Tournaments for Non-Fighters; A&S and Service-related. A&S activities were requested in 2016 exit survey. [How about a ?Sing-Off?? Kay] ? Staff positions are still open, to leave room for volunteers now that a plan is offered. ? Straum says we could use more Coins. Derian will organize that, and we increased budget by $100 to produce 5000 more coins at $20/1000. ? The Royalty may come. Added $520 to budget to cover hotel for 2 rooms, 4 nights. ? Do not count on good weather- Baron Straum. We were very lucky in 2016. *Terpsichore Lunch Tavern April 1, 2017 *St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI.* Lord Harkon $500 1st of 3 Meetings* Planning for 110 guests. Mid Eastern $5 Meal Deal, with Mujadara (Lentils) Chicken, sides, soda. Coffee & Tea Service all day. There was a request for Hard-cooked Eggs. *Event Proposal: Cook?s Symposium October 13, 14 & 15, 2017 *St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. *Baroness Hannah $525 1st of 3 Meetings* Cynnabar is asked to host the Biennial Middle Kingdom Cook?s Symposium. This event has happened for many years mostly in the Kalamazoo area. ? The weekend selected has No Football! ? Activities will include Friday night Lecture and/ or social activity, classes and a potluck feast on Saturday, food related outing off-site on Sunday morning. This could be a tour of food and history related places in The Barony, or a special class at such a place. ? Note that the cost for use of St. Paul?s Church has gone up ? Friday site access and times must be confirmed. Is there still an AA meeting and is in where we will want to set up? *Support for Pentemere Shade Fly Rental (up to) $100 Baron Ermenrich. 1st of 3 Meetings* ? Sir Jorlief is organizing the rental of a large tent for the Pentemere Battlefield Presence and Shade Fly at Pennsic War. The tent will be decorate with baronial banners (we send ours) and will serve as rallying point for units, shade, a place for your stuff, and a Presence Tent for the Baronage of the region to hold field courts or evening activities. ? Can each Barony help out? *Status check on approved budget items * *12th Night *Lady Ceara are all receipts in? Helva has some profits from Lunch Tavern to hand in. Ceara believes it is about $200. No News LATE NEWS- Sunday we learned the NMR and Kingdom profit share checks were not yet in. See Old Business, above. *Registering the Baronial Awards and Order Names and Badges. *Mistress Ursula, Herald. $100 ($36 disbursed 11/21) ($32 spent 2/13, disbursed 2/20) $42 remains to be spent. *Restock Cards,* *Brochures-** Chatelaine Box. *$75 Lady Daye. Will advise when done. *Herald?s Office Eadraed $40 for Supplies *Eadraed Check cut? *Contribution to Kingdom Baronial Retreat $50/ one meeting. *Check was cut. Branch to branch transfer form was completed. *Announcements** & Group Discussion* *No more Fudge Money! *The sense of the Meeting was that we should call this line item Miscellaneous, unless actual fudge is involved. ?Fudge money? sounds too casual. *Pennsic Planning: Sir Straum* ? It is time to Pre-register for Pennsic. He is working on the camp fee structure. He plans to offer incentives to those who work on Set-up and Tear-down. *Future New Business Idea:* Let?s discuss a *Policy for the use of the Baronial Trailer*. We could not confirm that Baronial Financial Policies covered the use of major equipment. We think the policy will Over-ride any precedent set by a onetime use of the trailer for the Gulf War trip. *Future New Business Idea:* Purchase A-Frame (Sandwich Board) signs to mark event entrances. These are the plastic ones. Ms. Claire reports larger version of the one used by the Chatelaines office exists. Kay: Will someone research prices and availability? How much to put our own design on the sign? Or shall we add posters appropriate for each use? *Officer Reports Big 5 followed by rest. Martial grouped.* Min A&S (Aeffe) ? Aeffe is looking for Deputies. These would not be necessarily Drop Dead Deputies, or future replacements. It is a good way to get involved in the Arts and Sciences in Cynnabar. Chronicler (Gavriil) ? Seeking to step down. He has been Chronicler for 10 issues. Anyone interested in this position could shadow Gavriil over the next 2 months as he creates his final Citadel issue. Exchequer (Ilsa) ? Coffers will well filled as of the 2/20 report. Herald (Eadraed) ? Heralds and Scribes night on February 2 was well attended. ? *Herald?s Point event:* Ms. Ursula taught a class on creating names. Eadraed worked at the consulting table. There was a signing class; he attended. ? Plans are underway to create a Tabard of Office for the Cynnabar Pursuivant to wear. ? Eadraed wants to create permanent shield outlines on whiteboards for trying designs. Methods were discussed. ? Monday March 6 is Scribes & Herald?s night. Dinner is Grilled Cheese Sandwiches ?Cut Your Way? in to heraldic Ordinaries. Tomato soup, too. See Eadraed or Hannah for more info. Knight Marshal (Zygmunt) ? Archery Marshal (OPEN ) ? Fencing Marshal (William, Deputy Birke) ? Chatelaine (Daege) ? Daye is out of town but reports she has identified someone who will organize Gold Key for Spring Revel. Webminister (Aaron) ? Min. Youth (OPEN) ? Seneschal (Kay) ? The reporting crisis was solved under the leadership of Baroness Kasha, with quick and efficient actions from the 2016/ 2017 event stewards and Baronial Exchequer Lady Ilse. Kasha and I discussed pulling all those rules together in to a checklist for event stewards. It has been years since there was a handbook for running events published in the Kingdom. If anyone has event or meeting sites to suggest, please let me know. I would like to identify a meeting site with better parking, off campus, by May. Baron and Baroness (Kasha and Ermenrich) ? *Baron and Baroness:* Baronial Retreat: 17 baronies represented out of 20 in the Kingdom. A valuable experience. Laurel Retreat was also in Shadowed Stars this past weekend. Ms. Kasha reports that to better serve the Kingdom Laurels will hold social hours at event. Called ?The Branch? this will be a place to talk about the arts and sciences and to meet other artisans. Baron Ermenrich was at Pentemere Academy of Defense: Lord Harkin inducted into the Order of the Cavendish Knot. Lord Ze?ev ben Ami into the Bronze Ring. June 6, 2018 is the 20th anniversary of Cynnabar becoming a Barony. We should plan a celebration. What would be cool things to do? Hold and event? Celebrate at all our events that year? Collect stories of and from the Barony? Drunken Court Theme for Pennsic 46: Ragnarok. Norse themes, come as a monster or a god. ?Brewery Becker? drinks are planned. And since I sat in meetings of the barons with the King all day last week and he did not say anything to the contrary, We are still a Barony! Meeting Adjourned at about _9:00_ pm. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, others just beverages. Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from Pierpont Commons? Please reply to All so we can discuss. Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from this thread. Thanks, Kay *Kay Jarrell* 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 kjarrell at gmail.com HOME: 734-913-4053 CELL: 734-645-3175 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Mon Mar 6 20:09:42 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 15:09:42 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 5. Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony wrote: > I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar > meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and > be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. > > Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their > space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical > meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an > assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by > double French doors. > > Food service is of course available. > The parking lot is across the street. > I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed > suitable. > The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I > reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, > others just beverages. > > Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from > Pierpont Commons? > > Please reply to All so we can discuss. > Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from > this thread. > > Thanks, > Kay > > *Kay Jarrell* > > 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > kjarrell at gmail.com > > HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> > > CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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More information: http://www.cynnabar.org/eurodance When: Wed Mar 8, 2017 7pm ? 10pm Eastern Time Where: Michigan League, North University Avenue, Ann Arbor, MI, United States (Koessler Room) Calendar: Cynnabar Music and Dance Who: * Aaron Elkiss - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=c2MxbW43czZpcDF2dnRnZzlxbnFyN3VpdXNfMjAxNzAzMDJUMDAwMDAwWiA4cjE3cDBybWFjMmVydGFtMGxnZ2FkMTFnc0Bn Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Music and Dance. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. 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Perhaps this will revitalize our decision-making process. What other questions should we All talk about? Thanks, Kay On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" wrote: > One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of > members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. > Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) > > For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute walk > from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the nearest > bus stop on Route 5. > > Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? > > > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >> >> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >> space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >> double French doors. >> >> Food service is of course available. >> The parking lot is across the street. >> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >> suitable. >> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >> others just beverages. >> >> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >> Pierpont Commons? >> >> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from >> this thread. >> >> Thanks, >> Kay >> >> *Kay Jarrell* >> >> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >> >> kjarrell at gmail.com >> >> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >> >> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 14:34:05 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Kay Jarrell via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:34:05 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Fwd: Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This discussion is for a possible move *at the start of May*. I want to make an announcement of the change in mid April, or whenever I think we have reached a consensus. I would not book a major change so close. We need to discuss, work out kinks, figure out who's oxen might be gored... I thought allowing 4-6 weeks and 3-5 meetings for discussion was a nice amount of time to hear from people. And having email in the mix means we may hear from those who do not come to meetings now but may if we move. *I should have said May in the first message. * But as someone who puts returning the books on my calendar the minute I check them out, I assume anything important has a month of lead time. It does make me inflexible sometimes... Thanks, Kay *Kay Jarrell* 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 kjarrell at gmail.com HOME: 734-913-4053 CELL: 734-645-3175 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kay Jarrell Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. To: Carol Perry Lagemann Cc: Barony of Cynnabar I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club 20 years ago. We would be following in this path. I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our decision-making process. What other questions should we All talk about? Thanks, Kay On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" wrote: > One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of > members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. > Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) > > For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute walk > from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the nearest > bus stop on Route 5. > > Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? > > > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >> >> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >> space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >> double French doors. >> >> Food service is of course available. >> The parking lot is across the street. >> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >> suitable. >> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >> others just beverages. >> >> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >> Pierpont Commons? >> >> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from >> this thread. >> >> Thanks, >> Kay >> >> *Kay Jarrell* >> >> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >> >> kjarrell at gmail.com >> >> HOME: 734-913-4053 <%28734%29%20913-4053> >> >> CELL: 734-645-3175 <%28734%29%20645-3175> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 15:28:41 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Dawn Sinclair via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:28:41 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Fwd: Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How does this affect our ability to have a pre-meeting workshop? Would we no longer do those in an effort to have more social time to meet? That being said, what's scheduled for the meeting you're planning to move to test out the space? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony wrote: > This discussion is for a possible move *at the start of May*. I want to > make an announcement of the change in mid April, or whenever I think we > have reached a consensus. I would not book a major change so close. We > need to discuss, work out kinks, figure out who's oxen might be gored... > > I thought allowing 4-6 weeks and 3-5 meetings for discussion was a nice > amount of time to hear from people. And having email in the mix means we > may hear from those who do not come to meetings now but may if we move. > > *I should have said May in the first message. * But as someone who puts > returning the books on my calendar the minute I check them out, I assume > anything important has a month of lead time. It does make me inflexible > sometimes... > > Thanks, > Kay > > *Kay Jarrell* > > 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > kjarrell at gmail.com > > HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> > > CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Kay Jarrell > Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. > To: Carol Perry Lagemann > Cc: Barony of Cynnabar > > > I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. > She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained we > were planning on 3 Mondays a month. > > There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting > in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did a > short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club 20 > years ago. We would be following in this path. > > I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables > more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our > decision-making process. > > What other questions should we All talk about? > > Thanks, > Kay > > On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" > wrote: > >> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. >> Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >> >> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >> >> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>> >>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >>> space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>> double French doors. >>> >>> Food service is of course available. >>> The parking lot is across the street. >>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>> suitable. >>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>> others just beverages. >>> >>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>> Pierpont Commons? >>> >>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from >>> this thread. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kay >>> >>> *Kay Jarrell* >>> >>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>> >>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>> >>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <%28734%29%20913-4053> >>> >>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <%28734%29%20645-3175> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 19:55:51 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Heidi Lemon via Barony) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:55:51 +0000 Subject: [Cynnabar] Fwd: Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I like that idea. Close to a lot of members. Those that work late don't have to worry about hurrying home to make dinner and then get to the meeting. The parking lot is closer to the building (no tickets either). Bonus, there is no demand to order food or even a drink if you don't want Everything that is right with the Sidetrack is wrong with the U. Ilse On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:28 AM Dawn Sinclair via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > How does this affect our ability to have a pre-meeting workshop? Would we > no longer do those in an effort to have more social time to meet? > > That being said, what's scheduled for the meeting you're planning to move > to test out the space? > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > > This discussion is for a possible move *at the start of May*. I want to > make an announcement of the change in mid April, or whenever I think we > have reached a consensus. I would not book a major change so close. We > need to discuss, work out kinks, figure out who's oxen might be gored... > > I thought allowing 4-6 weeks and 3-5 meetings for discussion was a nice > amount of time to hear from people. And having email in the mix means we > may hear from those who do not come to meetings now but may if we move. > > *I should have said May in the first message. * But as someone who puts > returning the books on my calendar the minute I check them out, I assume > anything important has a month of lead time. It does make me inflexible > sometimes... > > Thanks, > Kay > > *Kay Jarrell* > > 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > kjarrell at gmail.com > > HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> > > CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Kay Jarrell* > Date: Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. > To: Carol Perry Lagemann > Cc: Barony of Cynnabar > > > I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. > She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained we > were planning on 3 Mondays a month. > > There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting > in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did a > short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club 20 > years ago. We would be following in this path. > > I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables > more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our > decision-making process. > > What other questions should we All talk about? > > Thanks, > Kay > > On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" > wrote: > > One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of > members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. > Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) > > For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute walk > from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the nearest > bus stop on Route 5. > > Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? > > > > On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > > I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar > meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and > be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. > > Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their > space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical > meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an > assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by > double French doors. > > Food service is of course available. > The parking lot is across the street. > I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed > suitable. > The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I > reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, > others just beverages. > > Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from > Pierpont Commons? > > Please reply to All so we can discuss. > Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from > this thread. > > Thanks, > Kay > > *Kay Jarrell* > > 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > kjarrell at gmail.com > > HOME: 734-913-4053 <%28734%29%20913-4053> > > CELL: 734-645-3175 <%28734%29%20645-3175> > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 20:25:29 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Margaret Kelly via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 15:25:29 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony wrote: > I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. > She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained we > were planning on 3 Mondays a month. > > There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting > in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did a > short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club 20 > years ago. We would be following in this path. > > I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables > more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our > decision-making process. > > What other questions should we All talk about? > > Thanks, > Kay > > On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" > wrote: > >> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. >> Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >> >> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >> >> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>> >>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >>> space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>> double French doors. >>> >>> Food service is of course available. >>> The parking lot is across the street. >>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>> suitable. >>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. 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URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 20:35:36 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 15:35:36 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Everyone -- I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back through previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the wrong problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also consider what would bring people to the meetings? A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a business meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold much attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect the Baronial meetings (if at all)? --Godaeth On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the Barony? > Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. >> She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained we >> were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >> >> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting >> in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did a >> short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club 20 >> years ago. We would be following in this path. >> >> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables >> more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our >> decision-making process. >> >> What other questions should we All talk about? >> >> Thanks, >> Kay >> >> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" >> wrote: >> >>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >>> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. >>> Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>> >>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >>> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >>> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>> >>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>>> >>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >>>> space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>> double French doors. >>>> >>>> Food service is of course available. >>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>> suitable. >>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>> others just beverages. >>>> >>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>>> Pierpont Commons? >>>> >>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from >>>> this thread. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kay >>>> >>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>> >>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>> >>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>> >>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>> >>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Barony mailing list >>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -- Elizabeth Calhoun Law Library University of Michigan Law School Ann Arbor, MI 48109 (734) 764-9330 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 20:58:34 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Greg Less via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 15:58:34 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be honest, lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current trend to simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without discussion and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality that should be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a relic from a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there isn't substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the proposals and ideas being given for consideration. We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a bad thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and make them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the problem. How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea being proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. -Gregoire. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > Everyone -- > > I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions > regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the > meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back through > previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... > and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 > people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the wrong > problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting > itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also > consider what would bring people to the meetings? > > A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a business > meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold much > attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the > *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & > socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. > > Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to > meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect > the Baronial meetings (if at all)? > > --Godaeth > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >> Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. >>> She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained we >>> were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>> >>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting >>> in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did a >>> short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club 20 >>> years ago. We would be following in this path. >>> >>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables >>> more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our >>> decision-making process. >>> >>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Kay >>> >>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >>>> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. >>>> Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>>> >>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >>>> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >>>> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>> >>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>>>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>>>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>>>> >>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >>>>> space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>>> double French doors. >>>>> >>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>>> suitable. >>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>> others just beverages. >>>>> >>>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>>>> Pierpont Commons? >>>>> >>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from >>>>> this thread. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Kay >>>>> >>>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>>> >>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>>> >>>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>>> >>>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > > > -- > Elizabeth Calhoun > Law Library > University of Michigan Law School > Ann Arbor, MI 48109 > (734) 764-9330 > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 21:03:03 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Greg Less via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:03:03 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe that HE Hannah brings up a good point that if we move to Sidetracks, we will likely be killing the pre-meeting workshop. I think that if we are unable to hold the workshop before the business meetings we should be sure to find a time and venue where they can continue to be held. Arts and Sciences and sharing of our collective knowledge is a cornerstone of what makes the SCA special. During the winter months, if we are able to continue practicing at the Union, it is convenient to hold the workshops in the Opera Room. That doesn't give us a solution for summer though, when practice attendance drops to near zero and we are outside, slave to the vagaries of Michigan weather and bereft of electricity. -Gregoire. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Greg Less wrote: > In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be > honest, lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current > trend to simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without > discussion and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality > that should be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a > relic from a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there > isn't substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the > proposals and ideas being given for consideration. > > We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a bad > thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and make > them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever > spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the > problem. > > How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea being > proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an > opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to > make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only > bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will > like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal > that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something > that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. > > -Gregoire. > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> Everyone -- >> >> I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions >> regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the >> meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back through >> previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... >> and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 >> people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the wrong >> problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting >> itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also >> consider what would bring people to the meetings? >> >> A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a business >> meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold much >> attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the >> *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & >> socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. >> >> Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to >> meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect >> the Baronial meetings (if at all)? >> >> --Godaeth >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >>> Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the >>>> owner. She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I >>>> explained we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>>> >>>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations >>>> meeting in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar >>>> did a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary >>>> Club 20 years ago. We would be following in this path. >>>> >>>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables >>>> more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our >>>> decision-making process. >>>> >>>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kay >>>> >>>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" < >>>> carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >>>>> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. >>>>> Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>>>> >>>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >>>>> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >>>>> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>>> >>>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>>>>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>>>>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>>>>> >>>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using >>>>>> their space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>>>> double French doors. >>>>>> >>>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>>>> suitable. >>>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>>> others just beverages. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>>>>> Pierpont Commons? >>>>>> >>>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately >>>>>> from this thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Kay >>>>>> >>>>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>>>> >>>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>>>> >>>>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>>>> >>>>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Barony mailing list >>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Elizabeth Calhoun >> Law Library >> University of Michigan Law School >> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 >> (734) 764-9330 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 21:07:44 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:07:44 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *This is in answer to Aeffe's question about population distribution within the Barony.* This information is current as of *August 2015.* (I don't have more updated figures handy, but I can produce them if needed, given some time.) Total Cynnabar Population = 208 - Reside within Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 119 - Reside outside Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 24 - Location of residence unknown = 65 Distribution within Cynnabar ZIP Codes - 24 people - 48197 (Ypsilanti & Rawsonville) - 18 people - 48103 (Ann Arbor, Delhi, Loch Alpine, Lodi Township, & Scio Township) - 14 people - 48108 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) - 13 people - 48105 (Ann Arbor, Ann Arbor Township, Barton Hills, Dixboro, & Superior Township) - 10 people - 48198 (Ypsilanti, Willow Run, Superior Township, & Superior Township) - 9 people - 48176 (Saline) - 7 people - 48104 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) - 6 people - 48118 (Chelsea, Freedom Township, Lima Center, Lima Township, Luce Township, Lyndon Township, & Sylvan Township) - 5 people - 48130 (Dexter, Dover, Four Mile Lake, Hudson Mills, Scio, & Webster) - 4 people - 48170 (Plymouth) - 3 people - 48160 (Milan, Augusta Township, Cone, London Township, Milan Township, Mooreville, Oakville, Stony Creek, & York Township) - 2 people - 48187 (Canton & Canton Township) - 2 people - 48189 (Whitmore Lake, Hamburg, Northfield Township, & Hamburg Township) - 1 person - 48167 (Northville & Northville Township) - 1 person - 48387 (Novi) On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Greg Less via Barony wrote: > I believe that HE Hannah brings up a good point that if we move to > Sidetracks, we will likely be killing the pre-meeting workshop. > > I think that if we are unable to hold the workshop before the business > meetings we should be sure to find a time and venue where they can continue > to be held. Arts and Sciences and sharing of our collective knowledge is a > cornerstone of what makes the SCA special. > > During the winter months, if we are able to continue practicing at the > Union, it is convenient to hold the workshops in the Opera Room. That > doesn't give us a solution for summer though, when practice attendance > drops to near zero and we are outside, slave to the vagaries of Michigan > weather and bereft of electricity. > > -Gregoire. > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Greg Less wrote: > >> In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be >> honest, lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current >> trend to simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without >> discussion and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality >> that should be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a >> relic from a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there >> isn't substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the >> proposals and ideas being given for consideration. >> >> We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a bad >> thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and make >> them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever >> spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the >> problem. >> >> How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea being >> proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an >> opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to >> make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only >> bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will >> like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal >> that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something >> that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. >> >> -Gregoire. >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> Everyone -- >>> >>> I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions >>> regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the >>> meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back through >>> previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... >>> and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 >>> people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the wrong >>> problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting >>> itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also >>> consider what would bring people to the meetings? >>> >>> A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a >>> business meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold >>> much attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the >>> *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & >>> socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. >>> >>> Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to >>> meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect >>> the Baronial meetings (if at all)? >>> >>> --Godaeth >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < >>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >>>> Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the >>>>> owner. She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I >>>>> explained we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>>>> >>>>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations >>>>> meeting in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar >>>>> did a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary >>>>> Club 20 years ago. We would be following in this path. >>>>> >>>>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables >>>>> more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our >>>>> decision-making process. >>>>> >>>>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Kay >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" < >>>>> carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >>>>>> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in Ypsilanti. >>>>>> Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>>>>> >>>>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >>>>>> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >>>>>> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>>>>>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>>>>>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using >>>>>>> their space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>>>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>>>>> double French doors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>>>>> suitable. >>>>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>>>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>>>> others just beverages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>>>>>> Pierpont Commons? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately >>>>>>> from this thread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Barony mailing list >>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Elizabeth Calhoun >>> Law Library >>> University of Michigan Law School >>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 >>> (734) 764-9330 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 21:22:55 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:22:55 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Gregoire, I'm interested in the idea of more debate causing greater attendance. I have some questions about what it might look like at a Cynnabar meeting. * About what percentage of topics at the business meeting do you currently feel would benefit from more debate? Are there items for which you feel that debate is not necessary (possibly the approval of uncontroversial expenditures, or details about running events)? * For items where debate is not necessary, how would you feel about NOT having a debate, and instead limiting the boredom factor by shortening the required approval time (for example, allowing the group to approve all expenses in only one meeting)? * Why do people currently not give enough criticism and pushback? Do you think there are people at the meetings who want to speak up but feel that they can't, or is it more that those who attend the meetings don't feel that debate is necessary? Is there a group of people who like to debate but are avoiding meetings because they feel the culture of the meetings forbids criticism? * What specific actions or policies could be used (by the seneschal, by meeting attendees, or others) to increase the amount of debate at meetings? Thanks, Kasha On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann < carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: > *This is in answer to Aeffe's question about population distribution > within the Barony.* > > This information is current as of *August 2015.* (I don't have more > updated figures handy, but I can produce them if needed, given some time.) > > Total Cynnabar Population = 208 > > - Reside within Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 119 > - Reside outside Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 24 > - Location of residence unknown = 65 > > Distribution within Cynnabar ZIP Codes > > - 24 people - 48197 (Ypsilanti & Rawsonville) > - 18 people - 48103 (Ann Arbor, Delhi, Loch Alpine, Lodi Township, & > Scio Township) > - 14 people - 48108 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) > - 13 people - 48105 (Ann Arbor, Ann Arbor Township, Barton Hills, > Dixboro, & Superior Township) > - 10 people - 48198 (Ypsilanti, Willow Run, Superior Township, & > Superior Township) > - 9 people - 48176 (Saline) > - 7 people - 48104 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) > - 6 people - 48118 (Chelsea, Freedom Township, Lima Center, Lima > Township, Luce Township, Lyndon Township, & Sylvan Township) > - 5 people - 48130 (Dexter, Dover, Four Mile Lake, Hudson Mills, Scio, > & Webster) > - 4 people - 48170 (Plymouth) > - 3 people - 48160 (Milan, Augusta Township, Cone, London Township, > Milan Township, Mooreville, Oakville, Stony Creek, & York Township) > - 2 people - 48187 (Canton & Canton Township) > - 2 people - 48189 (Whitmore Lake, Hamburg, Northfield Township, & > Hamburg Township) > - 1 person - 48167 (Northville & Northville Township) > - 1 person - 48387 (Novi) > > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Greg Less via Barony > wrote: > >> I believe that HE Hannah brings up a good point that if we move to >> Sidetracks, we will likely be killing the pre-meeting workshop. >> >> I think that if we are unable to hold the workshop before the business >> meetings we should be sure to find a time and venue where they can continue >> to be held. Arts and Sciences and sharing of our collective knowledge is a >> cornerstone of what makes the SCA special. >> >> During the winter months, if we are able to continue practicing at the >> Union, it is convenient to hold the workshops in the Opera Room. That >> doesn't give us a solution for summer though, when practice attendance >> drops to near zero and we are outside, slave to the vagaries of Michigan >> weather and bereft of electricity. >> >> -Gregoire. >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Greg Less wrote: >> >>> In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be >>> honest, lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current >>> trend to simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without >>> discussion and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality >>> that should be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a >>> relic from a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there >>> isn't substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the >>> proposals and ideas being given for consideration. >>> >>> We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a bad >>> thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and make >>> them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever >>> spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the >>> problem. >>> >>> How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea being >>> proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an >>> opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to >>> make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only >>> bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will >>> like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal >>> that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something >>> that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. >>> >>> -Gregoire. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony < >>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Everyone -- >>>> >>>> I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions >>>> regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the >>>> meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back through >>>> previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... >>>> and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 >>>> people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the wrong >>>> problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting >>>> itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also >>>> consider what would bring people to the meetings? >>>> >>>> A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a >>>> business meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold >>>> much attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the >>>> *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & >>>> socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. >>>> >>>> Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to >>>> meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect >>>> the Baronial meetings (if at all)? >>>> >>>> --Godaeth >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < >>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >>>>> Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the >>>>>> owner. She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I >>>>>> explained we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations >>>>>> meeting in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar >>>>>> did a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary >>>>>> Club 20 years ago. We would be following in this path. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it >>>>>> enables more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize >>>>>> our decision-making process. >>>>>> >>>>>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Kay >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" < >>>>>> carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster >>>>>>> of members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in >>>>>>> Ypsilanti. Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a >>>>>>> 2-minute walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk >>>>>>> from the nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>>>>>>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, and >>>>>>>> be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is important. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using >>>>>>>> their space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>>>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>>>>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>>>>>> double French doors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>>>>>> suitable. >>>>>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>>>>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>>>>> others just beverages. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>>>>>>> Pierpont Commons? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately >>>>>>>> from this thread. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Elizabeth Calhoun >>>> Law Library >>>> University of Michigan Law School >>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 >>>> (734) 764-9330 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Barony mailing list >>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 7 23:35:41 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Debora Vanheyningen via Barony) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 23:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Cynnabar] Please Sign Up to Bring a Dessert to Terp! References: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696@mail.yahoo.com> Hello fellow Cynnabarbarians, Once again this year I am organizing the dessert revel for our dance event, Terpsichore at the Tower. The event will be on Saturday, April 1st this year, and the dessert revel will take place between sets of the evening ball. Traditionally, Cynnabar folks (and occasionally a few others) bring desserts for the revel, which are then enjoyed by everyone attending. Please let me know ASAP whether you can bring something for the revel, even if you're not yet sure what you'll bring. I would like to encourage everyone in the Barony who possibly can do so to contribute something. I will once again be doing a subtletie style cake myself. The revel at our event has become known for it's variety and abundance of food (I've been told by other dancers that Terp has the BEST dessert revel), and I'd like to keep that up. We had one year where I nagged less than usual, and we ended up being a bit on the skimpy side food-wise, so I'd like to keep that from happening again. You can email me or message me on Facebook to sign up. If you don't know what to bring, please go ahead and sign up now and decide exactly what to make or buy later. The purpose of the list is to make sure that there will be enough food, and that not everyone brings the same thing (some duplication is fine, but if everyone in the barony showed up with a bag of grapes that would be a bit silly). We should have a table somewhere where subtleties can be on display during the day, and space in the kitchen to stash desserts that won't do well sitting in a car all day. With the event being on April 1st, I'd like to particularly encourage anyone so inclined to do their own "Fool the eye" foods. ?Googling "April Fools Day desserts" may give you some ideas. Thanks!? More info is below for those that need/want it. -Magda -------------------------------------------------------------- Some general guidelines (not rules) as to what to bring: Try to stick to finger food, or things that can be eaten with just a fork. Lots of something small is probably better than a few of something large. This will let more people sample each thing (buffets tend to make folks want to try a little of everything). Presentation counts. Brownies arranged on a plate look nicer than brownies still in the pan. They can also be grabbed more quickly, so the line will move faster. Nothing slows down a line like having everyone stop to cut themselves pieces of things, so precut anything where that won't destroy the presentation. If you buy something, serving it from something more period looking than the cardboard box it came in will make a better impression. If you want to try making something that actually is period, you can talk to me, or any of the cooks in the barony for ideas. There is also a lot of great information at Stephan's Florilegium in the food sections (http://www.florilegium.org). Some examples of period choices would include marzipan (which can be shaped or molded, rolled into balls, or just cut into squares), custards, fresh or dried fruit, pastries, candied fruit peels or flowers, gingerbread, shortbread, sugar paste (gum paste), some cookies (not involving chocolate, or baking powder or soda), biscotti, sweet breads (with or without fruit), nuts or fruit tarts. Subtleties (decorated foods, or foods which look like something other than what they are) were a medieval favorite, and would be great if anyone has any recipes or ideas along those lines which they want to try out. These can range from the ridiculous to the sublime, and generally do so in the SCA. Examples we've had have included cakes in the shapes of things (flower basket, tower, rock, lute), cookies with the cinnabar arms on them or shaped like elephants, a tower made of hostess cupcakes, and brownie battlefields of fighting marshmallow bunnies. These are often impressive and/or entertaining. If you don't have the time, inclination, or facilities to do something period and/or elaborate, you can bring anything that you think folks will want to eat between sets of a ball. All types of cookies and candies are welcome, as are salty snacks, veggies and dip, appetizers etc. Non-medieval food is fine, especially if it's homemade. Chocolate may not be period, but it always seems to disappear rapidly. All of the above are guidelines, not rules. Anything you bring will likely be happily consumed by hungry dancers in need of energy. Oh, and if you bring something which has non-obvious nuts in it, you might want to mark it as such, so that folks with allergies will know what to avoid. (Putting a "Warning--contains nuts" sign next to a bowl of mixed nuts is not really necessary, although it may be amusing). Thank you for helping our group provide hospitality to our guests, and I look forward to seeing you at Terp. -Lady Magdalena Vogelsang P.S. My apologies to those who get more than one copy of this email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 8 12:03:07 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Kay Jarrell via Barony) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 07:03:07 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Please Sign Up to Bring a Dessert to Terp! In-Reply-To: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1236347554.788024.1488929741696@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Count me in! I am thinking we need something Cheesy to counteract the Sugar... Kay On Mar 7, 2017 6:36 PM, "Debora Vanheyningen via Barony" < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > Hello fellow Cynnabarbarians, > > > > > > Once again this year I am organizing the dessert revel for our dance > event, Terpsichore at the Tower. The event will be on Saturday, April 1st > this year, and the dessert revel will take place between sets of the > evening ball. > > Traditionally, Cynnabar folks (and occasionally a few others) bring > desserts for the revel, which are then enjoyed by everyone attending. > > > Please let me know ASAP whether you can bring something for the revel, > even if you're not yet sure what you'll bring. > > I would like to encourage everyone in the Barony who possibly can do so to > contribute something. I will once again be doing a subtletie style cake > myself. The revel at our event has become known for it's variety and > abundance of food (I've been told by other dancers that Terp has the BEST > dessert revel), and I'd like to keep that up. We had one year where I > nagged less than usual, and we ended up being a bit on the skimpy side > food-wise, so I'd like to keep that from happening again. > > You can email me or message me on Facebook to sign up. If you don't know > what to bring, please go ahead and sign up now and decide exactly what to > make or buy later. The purpose of the list is to make sure that there will > be enough food, and that not everyone brings the same thing (some > duplication is fine, but if everyone in the barony showed up with a bag of > grapes that would be a bit silly). > > We should have a table somewhere where subtleties can be on display during > the day, and space in the kitchen to stash desserts that won't do well > sitting in a car all day. > > With the event being on April 1st, I'd like to particularly encourage > anyone so inclined to do their own "Fool the eye" foods. Googling "April > Fools Day desserts" may give you some ideas. > > Thanks! More info is below for those that need/want it. > > -Magda > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Some general guidelines (not rules) as to what to bring: > > Try to stick to finger food, or things that can be eaten with just a fork. > Lots of something small is probably better than a few of something large. > This will let more people sample each thing (buffets tend to make folks > want to try a little of everything). > > Presentation counts. Brownies arranged on a plate look nicer than brownies > still in the pan. They can also be grabbed more quickly, so the line will > move faster. Nothing slows down a line like having everyone stop to cut > themselves pieces of things, so precut anything where that won't destroy > the presentation. If you buy something, serving it from something more > period looking than the cardboard box it came in will make a better > impression. > > If you want to try making something that actually is period, you can talk > to me, or any of the cooks in the barony for ideas. There is also a lot of > great information at Stephan's Florilegium in the food sections ( > http://www.florilegium.org). Some examples of period choices would > include marzipan (which can be shaped or molded, rolled into balls, or just > cut into squares), custards, fresh or dried fruit, pastries, candied fruit > peels or flowers, gingerbread, shortbread, sugar paste (gum paste), some > cookies (not involving chocolate, or baking powder or soda), biscotti, > sweet breads (with or without fruit), nuts or fruit tarts. > > Subtleties (decorated foods, or foods which look like something other than > what they are) were a medieval favorite, and would be great if anyone has > any recipes or ideas along those lines which they want to try out. These > can range from the ridiculous to the sublime, and generally do so in the > SCA. Examples we've had have included cakes in the shapes of things (flower > basket, tower, rock, lute), cookies with the cinnabar arms on them or > shaped like elephants, a tower made of hostess cupcakes, and brownie > battlefields of fighting marshmallow bunnies. These are often impressive > and/or entertaining. > > If you don't have the time, inclination, or facilities to do something > period and/or elaborate, you can bring anything that you think folks will > want to eat between sets of a ball. All types of cookies and candies are > welcome, as are salty snacks, veggies and dip, appetizers etc. > > Non-medieval food is fine, especially if it's homemade. Chocolate may not > be period, but it always seems to disappear rapidly. > > All of the above are guidelines, not rules. Anything you bring will likely > be happily consumed by hungry dancers in need of energy. Oh, and if you > bring something which has non-obvious nuts in it, you might want to mark it > as such, so that folks with allergies will know what to avoid. (Putting a > "Warning--contains nuts" sign next to a bowl of mixed nuts is not really > necessary, although it may be amusing). > > Thank you for helping our group provide hospitality to our guests, and I > look forward to seeing you at Terp. > > -Lady Magdalena Vogelsang > > P.S. My apologies to those who get more than one copy of this email. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 8 13:25:41 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Greg Less via Barony) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 08:25:41 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Your Excellency- * Any topic that can be debated, should be open to debate. - There is no such thing as "an uncontroversial expenditure." Every dime that the barony spends belongs to every member of the group and if someone has an issue with an expenditure they should feel welcome and encouraged to bring that issue before the group and discuss it. - Details of running events should absolutely be discussed, debated, and only passed when consensus has been reached - we expect the populace to attend our events, pay our site fees, and then work on their day off. It is but the smallest of courtesy to give them a say in how they are going to be managed. * The three meeting process is in place so that people who have a concern have ample time to come to a meeting and present their concerns. Our trend toward calling expenditures "emergencies" and using the Seneschal's $50 discretionary spending power disturbs me. * I can not know the secrets that lie in the hearts of men. For my own part, I do not believe that criticism of ideas is well received in the barony at this time. * I don't think a policy can be used to encourage debate. -Gregoire. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann < carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: > Gregoire, I'm interested in the idea of more debate causing greater > attendance. I have some questions about what it might look like at a > Cynnabar meeting. > > * About what percentage of topics at the business meeting do you currently > feel would benefit from more debate? Are there items for which you feel > that debate is not necessary (possibly the approval of uncontroversial > expenditures, or details about running events)? > > * For items where debate is not necessary, how would you feel about NOT > having a debate, and instead limiting the boredom factor by shortening the > required approval time (for example, allowing the group to approve all > expenses in only one meeting)? > > * Why do people currently not give enough criticism and pushback? Do you > think there are people at the meetings who want to speak up but feel that > they can't, or is it more that those who attend the meetings don't feel > that debate is necessary? Is there a group of people who like to debate but > are avoiding meetings because they feel the culture of the meetings forbids > criticism? > > * What specific actions or policies could be used (by the seneschal, by > meeting attendees, or others) to increase the amount of debate at meetings? > > Thanks, > Kasha > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann < > carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: > >> *This is in answer to Aeffe's question about population distribution >> within the Barony.* >> >> This information is current as of *August 2015.* (I don't have more >> updated figures handy, but I can produce them if needed, given some time.) >> >> Total Cynnabar Population = 208 >> >> - Reside within Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 119 >> - Reside outside Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 24 >> - Location of residence unknown = 65 >> >> Distribution within Cynnabar ZIP Codes >> >> - 24 people - 48197 (Ypsilanti & Rawsonville) >> - 18 people - 48103 (Ann Arbor, Delhi, Loch Alpine, Lodi Township, & >> Scio Township) >> - 14 people - 48108 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) >> - 13 people - 48105 (Ann Arbor, Ann Arbor Township, Barton Hills, >> Dixboro, & Superior Township) >> - 10 people - 48198 (Ypsilanti, Willow Run, Superior Township, & >> Superior Township) >> - 9 people - 48176 (Saline) >> - 7 people - 48104 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) >> - 6 people - 48118 (Chelsea, Freedom Township, Lima Center, Lima >> Township, Luce Township, Lyndon Township, & Sylvan Township) >> - 5 people - 48130 (Dexter, Dover, Four Mile Lake, Hudson Mills, >> Scio, & Webster) >> - 4 people - 48170 (Plymouth) >> - 3 people - 48160 (Milan, Augusta Township, Cone, London Township, >> Milan Township, Mooreville, Oakville, Stony Creek, & York Township) >> - 2 people - 48187 (Canton & Canton Township) >> - 2 people - 48189 (Whitmore Lake, Hamburg, Northfield Township, & >> Hamburg Township) >> - 1 person - 48167 (Northville & Northville Township) >> - 1 person - 48387 (Novi) >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Greg Less via Barony > > wrote: >> >>> I believe that HE Hannah brings up a good point that if we move to >>> Sidetracks, we will likely be killing the pre-meeting workshop. >>> >>> I think that if we are unable to hold the workshop before the business >>> meetings we should be sure to find a time and venue where they can continue >>> to be held. Arts and Sciences and sharing of our collective knowledge is a >>> cornerstone of what makes the SCA special. >>> >>> During the winter months, if we are able to continue practicing at the >>> Union, it is convenient to hold the workshops in the Opera Room. That >>> doesn't give us a solution for summer though, when practice attendance >>> drops to near zero and we are outside, slave to the vagaries of Michigan >>> weather and bereft of electricity. >>> >>> -Gregoire. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Greg Less wrote: >>> >>>> In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be >>>> honest, lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current >>>> trend to simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without >>>> discussion and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality >>>> that should be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a >>>> relic from a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there >>>> isn't substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the >>>> proposals and ideas being given for consideration. >>>> >>>> We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a >>>> bad thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and >>>> make them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever >>>> spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea >>>> being proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an >>>> opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to >>>> make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only >>>> bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will >>>> like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal >>>> that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something >>>> that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. >>>> >>>> -Gregoire. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony < >>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Everyone -- >>>>> >>>>> I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions >>>>> regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the >>>>> meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back through >>>>> previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... >>>>> and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 >>>>> people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the wrong >>>>> problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting >>>>> itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also >>>>> consider what would bring people to the meetings? >>>>> >>>>> A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a >>>>> business meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold >>>>> much attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the >>>>> *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & >>>>> socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. >>>>> >>>>> Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to >>>>> meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect >>>>> the Baronial meetings (if at all)? >>>>> >>>>> --Godaeth >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < >>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >>>>>> Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the >>>>>>> owner. She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I >>>>>>> explained we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations >>>>>>> meeting in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar >>>>>>> did a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary >>>>>>> Club 20 years ago. We would be following in this path. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it >>>>>>> enables more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize >>>>>>> our decision-making process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" < >>>>>>> carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster >>>>>>>> of members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in >>>>>>>> Ypsilanti. Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a >>>>>>>> 2-minute walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk >>>>>>>> from the nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold >>>>>>>>> Cynnabar meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer >>>>>>>>> parking, and be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own >>>>>>>>> is important. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using >>>>>>>>> their space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>>>>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>>>>>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>>>>>>> double French doors. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>>>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>>>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>>>>>>> suitable. >>>>>>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>>>>>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>>>>>> others just beverages. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change from >>>>>>>>> Pierpont Commons? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>>>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately >>>>>>>>> from this thread. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Elizabeth Calhoun >>>>> Law Library >>>>> University of Michigan Law School >>>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 >>>>> (734) 764-9330 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 8 13:30:38 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 08:30:38 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Gregoire! This really helped my understanding of what you are saying. -- Kasha On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Greg Less wrote: > Hi Your Excellency- > > * Any topic that can be debated, should be open to debate. > - There is no such thing as "an uncontroversial expenditure." Every dime > that the barony spends belongs to every member of the group and if someone > has an issue with an expenditure they should feel welcome and encouraged to > bring that issue before the group and discuss it. > - Details of running events should absolutely be discussed, debated, and > only passed when consensus has been reached - we expect the populace to > attend our events, pay our site fees, and then work on their day off. It is > but the smallest of courtesy to give them a say in how they are going to be > managed. > > * The three meeting process is in place so that people who have a concern > have ample time to come to a meeting and present their concerns. Our trend > toward calling expenditures "emergencies" and using the Seneschal's $50 > discretionary spending power disturbs me. > > * I can not know the secrets that lie in the hearts of men. For my own > part, I do not believe that criticism of ideas is well received in the > barony at this time. > > * I don't think a policy can be used to encourage debate. > > -Gregoire. > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann < > carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Gregoire, I'm interested in the idea of more debate causing greater >> attendance. I have some questions about what it might look like at a >> Cynnabar meeting. >> >> * About what percentage of topics at the business meeting do you >> currently feel would benefit from more debate? Are there items for which >> you feel that debate is not necessary (possibly the approval of >> uncontroversial expenditures, or details about running events)? >> >> * For items where debate is not necessary, how would you feel about NOT >> having a debate, and instead limiting the boredom factor by shortening the >> required approval time (for example, allowing the group to approve all >> expenses in only one meeting)? >> >> * Why do people currently not give enough criticism and pushback? Do you >> think there are people at the meetings who want to speak up but feel that >> they can't, or is it more that those who attend the meetings don't feel >> that debate is necessary? Is there a group of people who like to debate but >> are avoiding meetings because they feel the culture of the meetings forbids >> criticism? >> >> * What specific actions or policies could be used (by the seneschal, by >> meeting attendees, or others) to increase the amount of debate at meetings? >> >> Thanks, >> Kasha >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann < >> carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> *This is in answer to Aeffe's question about population distribution >>> within the Barony.* >>> >>> This information is current as of *August 2015.* (I don't have more >>> updated figures handy, but I can produce them if needed, given some time.) >>> >>> Total Cynnabar Population = 208 >>> >>> - Reside within Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 119 >>> - Reside outside Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 24 >>> - Location of residence unknown = 65 >>> >>> Distribution within Cynnabar ZIP Codes >>> >>> - 24 people - 48197 (Ypsilanti & Rawsonville) >>> - 18 people - 48103 (Ann Arbor, Delhi, Loch Alpine, Lodi Township, & >>> Scio Township) >>> - 14 people - 48108 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) >>> - 13 people - 48105 (Ann Arbor, Ann Arbor Township, Barton Hills, >>> Dixboro, & Superior Township) >>> - 10 people - 48198 (Ypsilanti, Willow Run, Superior Township, & >>> Superior Township) >>> - 9 people - 48176 (Saline) >>> - 7 people - 48104 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) >>> - 6 people - 48118 (Chelsea, Freedom Township, Lima Center, Lima >>> Township, Luce Township, Lyndon Township, & Sylvan Township) >>> - 5 people - 48130 (Dexter, Dover, Four Mile Lake, Hudson Mills, >>> Scio, & Webster) >>> - 4 people - 48170 (Plymouth) >>> - 3 people - 48160 (Milan, Augusta Township, Cone, London Township, >>> Milan Township, Mooreville, Oakville, Stony Creek, & York Township) >>> - 2 people - 48187 (Canton & Canton Township) >>> - 2 people - 48189 (Whitmore Lake, Hamburg, Northfield Township, & >>> Hamburg Township) >>> - 1 person - 48167 (Northville & Northville Township) >>> - 1 person - 48387 (Novi) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Greg Less via Barony < >>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I believe that HE Hannah brings up a good point that if we move to >>>> Sidetracks, we will likely be killing the pre-meeting workshop. >>>> >>>> I think that if we are unable to hold the workshop before the business >>>> meetings we should be sure to find a time and venue where they can continue >>>> to be held. Arts and Sciences and sharing of our collective knowledge is a >>>> cornerstone of what makes the SCA special. >>>> >>>> During the winter months, if we are able to continue practicing at the >>>> Union, it is convenient to hold the workshops in the Opera Room. That >>>> doesn't give us a solution for summer though, when practice attendance >>>> drops to near zero and we are outside, slave to the vagaries of Michigan >>>> weather and bereft of electricity. >>>> >>>> -Gregoire. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Greg Less wrote: >>>> >>>>> In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be >>>>> honest, lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current >>>>> trend to simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without >>>>> discussion and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality >>>>> that should be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a >>>>> relic from a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there >>>>> isn't substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the >>>>> proposals and ideas being given for consideration. >>>>> >>>>> We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a >>>>> bad thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and >>>>> make them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever >>>>> spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the >>>>> problem. >>>>> >>>>> How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea >>>>> being proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an >>>>> opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to >>>>> make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only >>>>> bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will >>>>> like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal >>>>> that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something >>>>> that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. >>>>> >>>>> -Gregoire. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony < >>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Everyone -- >>>>>> >>>>>> I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived >>>>>> discussions regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or >>>>>> change the meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup. I read back >>>>>> through previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to >>>>>> CC ... and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance >>>>>> of 5-8 people is low (from historical trends). Maybe we're working the >>>>>> wrong problem. Without denying that it's time to consider moving the >>>>>> meeting itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we >>>>>> also consider what would bring people to the meetings? >>>>>> >>>>>> A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a >>>>>> business meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold >>>>>> much attraction. Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the >>>>>> *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & >>>>>> socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to >>>>>> meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect >>>>>> the Baronial meetings (if at all)? >>>>>> >>>>>> --Godaeth >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony < >>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >>>>>>> Barony? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the >>>>>>>> owner. She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I >>>>>>>> explained we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations >>>>>>>> meeting in restaurants. Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar >>>>>>>> did a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary >>>>>>>> Club 20 years ago. We would be following in this path. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it >>>>>>>> enables more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize >>>>>>>> our decision-making process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" < >>>>>>>> carolanneperry at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster >>>>>>>>> of members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in >>>>>>>>> Ypsilanti. Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close by.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a >>>>>>>>> 2-minute walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk >>>>>>>>> from the nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony < >>>>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold >>>>>>>>>> Cynnabar meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer >>>>>>>>>> parking, and be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own >>>>>>>>>> is important. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using >>>>>>>>>> their space. They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>>>>>>> meeting count of 15-20. This room is in their third storefront and has an >>>>>>>>>> assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed off by >>>>>>>>>> double French doors. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>>>>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>>>>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it >>>>>>>>>> seemed suitable. >>>>>>>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. >>>>>>>>>> I reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>>>>>>> others just beverages. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are members of the Barony interested trying this as a change >>>>>>>>>> from Pierpont Commons? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>>>>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately >>>>>>>>>> from this thread. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Kay Jarrell* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> kjarrell at gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Elizabeth Calhoun >>>>>> Law Library >>>>>> University of Michigan Law School >>>>>> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 >>>>>> (734) 764-9330 >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Barony mailing list >>>>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Barony mailing list >>>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Wed Mar 8 19:29:04 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (David Hoornstra via Barony) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 14:29:04 -0500 Subject: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello everyone, It?s been long since I put my oar in, but this is the time. I must say Gregoire hit the nail very close to the head. A couple of things he did NOT say, I will. ? A group like ours cannot be ?managed? like a corporation by trying to ?game? the numbers and trends. You have to do the real work of taking care of individuals? needs. One of these is the FEELING that their voice matters. Numbers management applied to this must accept that 100% of the people must always be allowed a voice, and 100% of the concerns are eligible 100% of the time. ? Corollary: there is no such thing as ?enough criticism and pushback.? ?Enough? is not a measureable quantity. The required item isn?t ?criticism and pushback.? It is the guarantee that the opportunity will always be there. Fear of losing these is a huge factor in national politics. Let?s not have that here. ? No one at any time accepts criticism well. Those who take on the job of ?leadership? must ALL try to handle it as well as we can for the good of others, i.e. the group. Daibhid From: Greg Less via Barony Reply-To: Greg Less Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 08:25:41 -0500 To: Carol Perry Lagemann Cc: barony Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] Searching for a new Meeting site. Hi Your Excellency- ?* Any topic that can be debated, should be open to debate.? ? - There is no such thing as "an uncontroversial expenditure." Every dime that the barony spends belongs to every member of the group and if someone has an issue with an expenditure they should feel welcome and encouraged to bring that issue before the group and discuss it.? ? - Details of running events should absolutely be discussed, debated, and only passed when consensus has been reached - we expect the populace to attend our events, pay our site fees, and then work on their day off. It is but the smallest of courtesy to give them a say in how they are going to be managed.? * The three meeting process is in place so that people who have a concern have ample time to come to a meeting and present their concerns. Our trend toward calling expenditures "emergencies" and using the Seneschal's $50 discretionary spending power disturbs me.? * I can not know the secrets that lie in the hearts of men. For my own part, I do not believe that criticism of ideas is well received in the barony at this time.? * I don't think a policy can be used to encourage debate.? -Gregoire. ? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann wrote: > Gregoire, I'm interested in the idea of more debate causing greater > attendance. I have some questions about what it might look like at a Cynnabar > meeting. > > * About what percentage of topics at the business meeting do you currently > feel would benefit from more debate? Are there items for which you feel that > debate is not necessary (possibly the approval of uncontroversial > expenditures, or details about running events)? > > * For items where debate is not necessary, how would you feel about NOT having > a debate, and instead limiting the boredom factor by shortening the required > approval time (for example, allowing the group to approve all expenses in only > one meeting)? > > * Why do people currently not give enough criticism and pushback? Do you think > there are people at the meetings who want to speak up but feel that they > can't, or is it more that those who attend the meetings don't feel that debate > is necessary? Is there a group of people who like to debate but are avoiding > meetings because they feel the culture of the meetings forbids criticism? > > * What specific actions or policies could be used (by the seneschal, by > meeting attendees, or others) to increase the amount of debate at meetings? > > Thanks, > Kasha > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:07 PM, Carol Perry Lagemann > wrote: >> This is in answer to Aeffe's question about population distribution within >> the Barony. >> >> This information is current as of?August 2015.?(I don't have more updated >> figures handy, but I can produce them if needed, given some time.) >> >> Total Cynnabar Population = 208 >> * Reside within Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 119 >> * Reside?outside Cynnabar ZIP Codes = 24 >> * Location of residence unknown = 65 >> Distribution within Cynnabar ZIP Codes >> * 24 people - 48197 (Ypsilanti & Rawsonville) >> * >> * 18 people?- 48103 (Ann Arbor, Delhi, Loch Alpine, Lodi Township, & Scio >> Township) >> * >> * 14 people?- 48108 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) >> * >> * 13 people?- 48105 (Ann Arbor, Ann Arbor Township, Barton Hills, Dixboro, & >> Superior Township) >> * >> * 10 people?- 48198 (Ypsilanti, Willow Run, Superior Township, & Superior >> Township) >> * >> * 9 people?- 48176 (Saline) >> * >> * 7 people?- 48104 (Ann Arbor & Pittsfield Township) >> * >> * 6 people?- 48118 (Chelsea, Freedom Township, Lima Center, Lima Township, >> Luce Township, Lyndon Township, & Sylvan Township) >> * >> * 5 people?- 48130 (Dexter, Dover, Four Mile Lake, Hudson Mills, Scio, & >> Webster) >> * >> * 4 people?- 48170 (Plymouth) >> * >> * 3 people?- 48160 (Milan, Augusta Township, Cone, London Township, Milan >> Township, Mooreville, Oakville, Stony Creek, & York Township) >> * >> * 2 people?- 48187 (Canton & Canton Township) >> * >> * 2 people?- 48189 (Whitmore Lake, Hamburg, Northfield Township, & Hamburg >> Township) >> * >> * 1 person - 48167 (Northville & Northville Township) >> * >> * 1 person?- 48387 (Novi) >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Greg Less via Barony >> wrote: >>> I believe that HE Hannah brings up a good point that if we move to >>> Sidetracks, we will likely be killing the pre-meeting workshop.? >>> >>> I think that if we are unable to hold the workshop before the business >>> meetings we should be sure to find a time and venue where they can continue >>> to be held. Arts and Sciences and sharing of our collective knowledge is a >>> cornerstone of what makes the SCA special.? >>> >>> During the winter months, if we are able to continue practicing at the >>> Union, it is convenient to hold the workshops in the Opera Room. That >>> doesn't give us a solution for summer though, when practice attendance drops >>> to near zero and we are outside, slave to the vagaries of Michigan weather >>> and bereft of electricity.? >>> >>> -Gregoire.? >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Greg Less wrote: >>>> In my opinion, the biggest incentive to attending meetings would be honest, >>>> lively debate over issues and proposals as opposed to our current trend to >>>> simply rubber stamp everything that gets put forward. Without discussion >>>> and debate, the three meeting process is an out-dated formality that should >>>> be gotten rid of. Indeed, at this point the entire meeting is a relic from >>>> a bygone era that could be easily replaced by email - IF - there isn't >>>> substantial opposition at least occasionally brought forth to the proposals >>>> and ideas being given for consideration.? >>>> >>>> We seem to currently view any push back or criticism of an idea as a bad >>>> thing. I assert that critical conversation is how we improve ideas and make >>>> them even stronger. If only the most ill-conceived proposals are ever >>>> spoken against, I believe it is the process that is the heart of the >>>> problem.? >>>> >>>> How does this increase attendance at meetings? If you like an idea being >>>> proposed, you will attend to be certain that it isn't shut down by an >>>> opposing opinion. If you don't like an idea, you will be sure to attend to >>>> make sure that the barony doesn't commit to an activity that will only >>>> bring heartache and infamy to the group. Participation at events will >>>> like-wise increase because a well fleshed out and debated event proposal >>>> that has been agreed upon by our traditional consensus model is something >>>> that the entire group has come together to, in some small way, create. ? >>>> >>>> -Gregoire.? >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony >>>> wrote: >>>>> Everyone -- >>>>> >>>>> I had the chance just now to go back and read the archived discussions >>>>> regarding the 2015 proposal to move from Classic Cup ... or change the >>>>> meeting night in order to remain at Classic Cup.? I read back through >>>>> previous years, when the group moved from the League to Borders to CC ... >>>>> and part of what I noticed was a comment that a meeting attendance of 5-8 >>>>> people is low (from historical trends).? Maybe we're working the wrong >>>>> problem.? Without denying that it's time to consider moving the meeting >>>>> itself (as Ilse suggests, the U is not ideal for many), suppose we also >>>>> consider what would bring people to the meetings?? >>>>> >>>>> A week ago or so, someone commented in the Facebook group that a business >>>>> meeting that started at 7:30pm and went to 9 really didn't hold much >>>>> attraction.? Maybe having workshops has been well-intentioned but the >>>>> *critical synergy* is 1) a "fun" venue and 2) a chance for group meals & >>>>> socializing, as we used to do at Classic Cup.? >>>>> >>>>> Just my thoughts and questions.? Do we need "incentives" to come to >>>>> meetings?? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect >>>>> the Baronial meetings (if at all)? >>>>> >>>>> --Godaeth >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Margaret Kelly via Barony >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Just curious, what are the other member population centers in the >>>>>> Barony?? Is Ypsi/Pittsfield the biggest?? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I don't see a barrier to the room. I was speaking directly to the owner. >>>>>>> She mentioned that other groups use the space for meetings. I explained >>>>>>> we were planning on 3 Mondays a month. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a long tradition of service and fraternal organizations meeting >>>>>>> in restaurants.? Lions Clubs, Optomists, Rotary... in fact Cynnabar did >>>>>>> a short series of talks on historical topics for the Chelsea Rotary Club >>>>>>> 20 years ago.? We would be following in this path. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am proposing we try this for our next meeting, and see if it enables >>>>>>> more or different people to attend. Perhaps this will revitalize our >>>>>>> decision-making process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What other questions should we All talk about? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2017 3:10 PM, "Carol Perry Lagemann" >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> One nice thing about that location is that we have a large cluster of >>>>>>> members living near that area. (I know of 34 members who live in >>>>>>> Ypsilanti. Plus another 41 live in Pittsfield Township, which is close >>>>>>> by.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For everyone's reference, it looks like Sidetrack is about a 2-minute >>>>>>> walk from the nearest bus stop on Route 4, and a 10-minute walk from the >>>>>>> nearest bus stop on Route 5. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would we be able to reliably reserve the room on Monday nights? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Kay Jarrell via Barony >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I have been thinking about other places that we could hold Cynnabar >>>>>>> meetings. Our criteria are that the space be free, have closer parking, >>>>>>> and be accessible. Food service would be nice. A room or our own is >>>>>>> important. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Today I asked Sidetrack Tap in Depot Town, Ypsilanti about using their >>>>>>> space.? They have a smaller meeting room that would hold our typical >>>>>>> meeting count of 15-20.? This room is in their third storefront and has >>>>>>> an assortment of tables and an attached bathroom. The space is closed >>>>>>> off by double French doors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Food service is of course available. >>>>>>> The parking lot is across the street. >>>>>>> I attended a class meeting there a couple years back and it seemed >>>>>>> suitable. >>>>>>> The owner is willing to host us on an "order as you wish" basis. I >>>>>>> reported that when we met in the Classic Cup some members ordered meals, >>>>>>> others just beverages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are members of the Barony interested? trying this as a change from >>>>>>> Pierpont Commons?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please reply to All so we can discuss. >>>>>>> Any messages meant only for My Eyes would be best sent separately from >>>>>>> this thread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Kay >>>>>>> Kay Jarrell >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4363 Lyndon Lane? 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We will work on tunes for 6 dances: Bizzarria d'Amore Petit Riens Official Bransle Dargason Gathering Peascods Contrapasso Music is available in pennsicdance.aands.org/pennsic45/PennsicPile45.pdf Recordings to play along with are available at https://soundcloud.com/peascod_gatherers When: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:30pm ? 6:30pm Eastern Time Calendar: Cynnabar Music and Dance Who: * Aaron Elkiss - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MDNmbWUyaDhtaGlvbjFkNnU2a2Z2YjhicTggOHIxN3Awcm1hYzJlcnRhbTBsZ2dhZDExZ3NAZw Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Music and Dance. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. 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I don't regularly attend partially due to how my work day goes so I wouldn't count this as a good criterium. It should also be said that while I haven't been active in helping to run anything in Cynnabar, I had prior experience as Seneschal and also as Exchequer of Hawkland Moor. (And I'm likely overdue to offer service again.) The main purpose of a business meeting is the group's *business*. I'm a strong supporter of anything that gets that done efficiently and with good discussion. I was also a strong supporter of getting the group's business done quickly so that social time can happen. Since I have not been a regular attendee of Cynabar meetings, I don't have a sense as to what factors come into play to manage the social time vs. the business time. But the business *must* happen. So, speaking in general ignorance, I must still comment: > Just my thoughts and questions. Do we need "incentives" to come to > meetings? And: How does having a separate student group on campus affect > the Baronial meetings (if at all)? Be efficient at your business, plan time for social stuff. And even in the absence of planned social stuff, the pre-meeting classes have sorely tempted me more than once to ignore job responsibilities and visit. Keep those up! -- Malachy "Ancient nightmares. Archaic legends. Enigmatic dreams. All of it is true." Abney Park - All the Myths are True. From barony at cynnabar.org Sat Mar 11 23:30:12 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Google Calendar via Barony) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 23:30:12 +0000 Subject: [Cynnabar] Notification: Baronial Business Meeting @ Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:30pm - 8:30pm (Barony of Cynnabar) Message-ID: <94eb2c1baebc15b356054a7cdcd8@google.com> This is a notification for: Title: Baronial Business Meeting All are welcome at the Barony of Cynnabar?s Business Meeting, which will be held in the Center Room of Pierpont Commons on the North Campus of the University of Michigan. The Center Room is on the second level (upper floor) of Pierpont Commons (view map of Pierpont Commons here: https://uunions.umich.edu/files/uunions/styles/square_thumbnail/public/pierpont-first-second-mezz.png?itok=T7eE8-mr). 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Abney Park - All the Myths are True. From barony at cynnabar.org Thu Mar 16 13:15:32 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:15:32 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Cynnabar Survey In-Reply-To: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> References: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> Message-ID: Hi, Malachy! Someone else also asked me about a Baronial "phone book" recently. I will bring this up at the business meeting on Monday night (March 20) and see if people are interested. Anyone who has an opinion on this topic: Please come to the meeting or send me an email that I can read aloud to those who attend. To be clear, for everyone's benefit: If Cynnabar does decide to create a Baronial contact list of some kind, it would be optional to participate! Malachy, I will privately send you a list of the survey information I have from you. Best, Kasha On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > Excellency, > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:21:40PM -0400, Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony > wrote: > > Just like last March, I'm working on updating the information from the > > Baronial Census. If you've already filled out the survey, you should have > > received an email from me requesting any changes. > > Any chance we could get a list of what we already provided? ;-) > > Also, has there been any discussion about permitting some of the > information > to be more widely available? I.e. the Cynnabar "phone book"? > (A somewhat dated phrase...) > > I completely understand many people don't care to share some information, > but others are fine with such things. > > > > -- > Malachy > > "Ancient nightmares. Archaic legends. Enigmatic dreams. All of it is > true." > Abney Park - All the Myths are True. > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Thu Mar 16 13:19:59 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:19:59 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Cynnabar Survey In-Reply-To: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> References: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> Message-ID: Hi, Malachy. The information I have for you is attached. If you have any changes, just let me know. Best, Kasha On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > Excellency, > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:21:40PM -0400, Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony > wrote: > > Just like last March, I'm working on updating the information from the > > Baronial Census. 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URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Thu Mar 16 15:05:53 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Kay Jarrell via Barony) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:05:53 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Cynnabar Survey In-Reply-To: References: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> Message-ID: Since only about 15 people appear at meetings this is a good example of a discussion it would be more effective to have online. What do people think? And a Google form would be a good way to create a database of names, numbers, emails, addresses, whatever people were willing to put out there. I know there are people serving Cynnabar's interests who are good with this tool. Kay *Kay Jarrell* 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 kjarrell at gmail.com HOME: 734-913-4053 CELL: 734-645-3175 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > Hi, Malachy! > > Someone else also asked me about a Baronial "phone book" recently. I will > bring this up at the business meeting on Monday night (March 20) and see if > people are interested. Anyone who has an opinion on this topic: Please come > to the meeting or send me an email that I can read aloud to those who > attend. > > To be clear, for everyone's benefit: If Cynnabar does decide to create a > Baronial contact list of some kind, it would be optional to participate! > > Malachy, I will privately send you a list of the survey information I have > from you. > > Best, > Kasha > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> Excellency, >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:21:40PM -0400, Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony >> wrote: >> > Just like last March, I'm working on updating the information from the >> > Baronial Census. If you've already filled out the survey, you should >> have >> > received an email from me requesting any changes. >> >> Any chance we could get a list of what we already provided? ;-) >> >> Also, has there been any discussion about permitting some of the >> information >> to be more widely available? I.e. the Cynnabar "phone book"? >> (A somewhat dated phrase...) >> >> I completely understand many people don't care to share some information, >> but others are fine with such things. >> >> >> >> -- >> Malachy >> >> "Ancient nightmares. Archaic legends. Enigmatic dreams. All of it is >> true." >> Abney Park - All the Myths are True. >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Thu Mar 16 15:15:09 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Cynnabar Survey In-Reply-To: References: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> Message-ID: I've already had one person volunteer to put together the booklet, should we decide to make one. Let's absolutely have this discussion online. In particular, we need to talk about the format (a list? a booklet?), and clarify what kind of information will be collected and who will have access to it. If it's an online list, will it be password-protected? If it's a physical booklet, who will receive copies? I personally don't care if my contact information is made public, but I know others feel differently. In my opinion, however, the final decisions about what we are doing and whether we are doing it should be made at a meeting, which is the approved forum for the Barony's consensus-based decision-making process. Sincerely, Kasha On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Kay Jarrell wrote: > Since only about 15 people appear at meetings this is a good example of a > discussion it would be more effective to have online. What do people think? > > And a Google form would be a good way to create a database of names, > numbers, emails, addresses, whatever people were willing to put out there. > I know there are people serving Cynnabar's interests who are good with this > tool. > > Kay > > > > > *Kay Jarrell* > > 4363 Lyndon Lane Ann Arbor, MI 48105 > > kjarrell at gmail.com > > HOME: 734-913-4053 <(734)%20913-4053> > > CELL: 734-645-3175 <(734)%20645-3175> > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Carol Perry Lagemann via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > >> Hi, Malachy! >> >> Someone else also asked me about a Baronial "phone book" recently. I will >> bring this up at the business meeting on Monday night (March 20) and see if >> people are interested. Anyone who has an opinion on this topic: Please come >> to the meeting or send me an email that I can read aloud to those who >> attend. >> >> To be clear, for everyone's benefit: If Cynnabar does decide to create a >> Baronial contact list of some kind, it would be optional to participate! >> >> Malachy, I will privately send you a list of the survey information I >> have from you. >> >> Best, >> Kasha >> >> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony < >> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: >> >>> Excellency, >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 03:21:40PM -0400, Carol Perry Lagemann via >>> Barony wrote: >>> > Just like last March, I'm working on updating the information from the >>> > Baronial Census. If you've already filled out the survey, you should >>> have >>> > received an email from me requesting any changes. >>> >>> Any chance we could get a list of what we already provided? ;-) >>> >>> Also, has there been any discussion about permitting some of the >>> information >>> to be more widely available? I.e. the Cynnabar "phone book"? >>> (A somewhat dated phrase...) >>> >>> I completely understand many people don't care to share some information, >>> but others are fine with such things. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Malachy >>> >>> "Ancient nightmares. Archaic legends. Enigmatic dreams. All of it is >>> true." >>> Abney Park - All the Myths are True. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Barony mailing list >>> Barony at cynnabar.org >>> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Barony mailing list >> Barony at cynnabar.org >> http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Thu Mar 16 15:35:08 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Malachy von Ulm via Barony) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:35:08 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Cynnabar Survey In-Reply-To: References: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> Message-ID: <20170316153508.GA4799@pfrc.org> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:05:53AM -0400, Kay Jarrell wrote: > Since only about 15 people appear at meetings this is a good example of a > discussion it would be more effective to have online. What do people think? FWIW, it's also worth prodding facebook that the convo is happening here. I suspect the overlap between mail and facebook is not as good as one might like. > And a Google form would be a good way to create a database of names, > numbers, emails, addresses, whatever people were willing to put out there. > I know there are people serving Cynnabar's interests who are good with this > tool. Online forms are fine for collection, and really the most practical way to maintain such things easily. I think it's a bit more a question of the contents and accessibility. Her Excellency writes on the matter: > Let's absolutely have this discussion online. In particular, we need to talk > about the format (a list? a booklet?), and clarify what kind of information > will be collected and who will have access to it. If it's an online list, > will it be password-protected? If it's a physical booklet, who will receive > copies? I personally don't care if my contact information is made public, > but I know others feel differently. My own preference would be something that's online accessible. However, I do understand that some people would be happy publishing some information only if it never was in an online format. Paper copies tend to end up with stale information quickly, and they don't update frequently. (I kept household rosters for Shadowclans and Ironwolf in prior years and am a bit opinionated for this reason.) --- It might help to talk about "what do we want" before worrying too much about the "how do we go about it". For my part, when I want to contact someone: - I'm fine poking a central online form, maybe the baronial site. + It'd be nice to keep it accessible only within the barony. + But that means it needs some password protection. (Authentication, for the security minded folk.) This could be as simple as poking the link that says "send me my password" and it gets sent to your registered email. - Most of the time, some sort of online contact is fine: + That site could just give me their email address if they're willing to let it be public. + They might want to permit email contact, but prefer to not hand it out. We could have it run a "mail relay" that keeps the address private. This isn't hard to do, but has some annoying headaches for the site operator. + It could point me to a facebook ID. - Phone: + It could point me to a phone number. + It might tell me whether this is a cell phone or not and whether text message is okay. - Address is probably not needed much these days since most contact can happen online. But we *could* put it there if someone wanted. --- In my case, I'm fine with giving out mundane name, address, phone number and email along with facebook URL. This information has been so public domain for me for years (Internet domain contacts) that I'm used to it being out there. Most of our officers are in a similar boat. For example, when I can't find Midair's info, I just look in old copies of the Pale. :-) -- Malachy "Ancient nightmares. Archaic legends. Enigmatic dreams. All of it is true." Abney Park - All the Myths are True. From barony at cynnabar.org Thu Mar 16 22:56:39 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Aaron Elkiss via Barony) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:56:39 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Cynnabar Survey In-Reply-To: <20170316153508.GA4799@pfrc.org> References: <20170315194709.GB2412@pfrc.org> <20170316153508.GA4799@pfrc.org> Message-ID: I'd be happy to add the directory functionality for users on the web site. In fact most of it is either already implemented or very easy to add. I'd been working on this for a while, but lost momentum on it. If there's interest I'm happy to pick it up again. It's on github ( https://github.com/aelkiss/cynnabar-rails) so those with interest/ability can contribute if they want. On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > For my part, when I want to contact someone: > - I'm fine poking a central online form, maybe the baronial site. > + It'd be nice to keep it accessible only within the barony. > + But that means it needs some password protection. (Authentication, for > the security minded folk.) This could be as simple as poking the link > that says "send me my password" and it gets sent to your registered > email. > The web site currently supports this (open registration is currently disabled, but we could easily turn it on). > - Most of the time, some sort of online contact is fine: > + That site could just give me their email address if they're willing to > let it be public. > + They might want to permit email contact, but prefer to not hand it out. > We could have it run a "mail relay" that keeps the address private. > This isn't hard to do, but has some annoying headaches for the site > operator. > The web site has a contact form with ReCAPTCHA to support this (currently only for officers, but it would be trivial to enable it for all users). Aaron Drummond Webminister, Barony of Cynnabar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's on github ( > https://github.com/aelkiss/cynnabar-rails) so those with interest/ability > can contribute if they want. > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony < > barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: > > > For my part, when I want to contact someone: > - I'm fine poking a central online form, maybe the baronial site. > + It'd be nice to keep it accessible only within the barony. > + But that means it needs some password protection. (Authentication, for > the security minded folk.) This could be as simple as poking the link > that says "send me my password" and it gets sent to your registered > email. > > > The web site currently supports this (open registration is currently > disabled, but we could easily turn it on). > > > - Most of the time, some sort of online contact is fine: > + That site could just give me their email address if they're willing to > let it be public. > + They might want to permit email contact, but prefer to not hand it out. > We could have it run a "mail relay" that keeps the address private. > This isn't hard to do, but has some annoying headaches for the site > operator. > > > The web site has a contact form with ReCAPTCHA to support this (currently > only for officers, but it would be trivial to enable it for all users). > > Aaron Drummond > Webminister, Barony of Cynnabar > _______________________________________________ > Barony mailing list > Barony at cynnabar.org > http://lists.cynnabar.org/listinfo/barony > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We will work on tunes for 6 dances: Bizzarria d'Amore Petit Riens Official Bransle Dargason Gathering Peascods Contrapasso Music is available in pennsicdance.aands.org/pennsic45/PennsicPile45.pdf Recordings to play along with are available at https://soundcloud.com/peascod_gatherers When: Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:30pm ? 6:30pm Eastern Time Calendar: Cynnabar Music and Dance Who: * Aaron Elkiss - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=azN1OHFwNTVwZmtmYmRncXZkdjQwNW1zbDAgOHIxN3Awcm1hYzJlcnRhbTBsZ2dhZDExZ3NAZw Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Music and Dance. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. 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Parking in her driveway or on Revena St. Follow-up session: Sunday, March 26, 4-8 p.m., at the same location. March 27: Pre-meeting Dance Party Come to the pre-meeting workshop where we will get on our dancing shoes, push the tables aside, and practice our moves led by Mistress Alina and her rabble of live musicians! 6:30-7:30, Pierpont Commons Boulevard Room, University of Michigan North Campus. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Sat Mar 18 22:29:49 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Google Calendar via Barony) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:29:49 +0000 Subject: [Cynnabar] Notification: Masks in the Middle Ages @ Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:30pm - 7:30pm (Cynnabar Arts & Sciences) Message-ID: <94eb2c1900f009dfec054b08d583@google.com> This is a notification for: Title: Masks in the Middle Ages How were masks used in period and what did they look like? Come hear Sir Gregoire de Lyon talk about this timely topic. March 20, 6:30-7:30, Pierpont Commons Boulevard Room, University of Michigan North Campus. When: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:30pm ? 7:30pm Eastern Time Calendar: Cynnabar Arts & Sciences Who: * atorsdottir at gmail.com - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dmlnbTRsYjVsN2lvb2RzMTE5Z2xzbnI5dWcgY252bnJsNHBxNnQ5Ymw2OG8zcm44ZjhiZDBAZw Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Arts & Sciences. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A map showing closest parking lots is available at http://www.cynnabar.org/grandtourney/north-campus-meeting-parking.jpg When: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:30pm ? 8:30pm Eastern Time Where: Center Room, Pierpont Commons, 2101 Bonisteel Blvd, Ann Arbor, MI 48109 Calendar: Barony of Cynnabar Who: * Carol Perry Lagemann - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dWEzYnVxY2Q2cm1tYWs1a2J0dm85a2Y2NXNfMjAxNzAzMjBUMjMzMDAwWiBoaGxiMzhyNmdzOWRqMGc0c2ZuMG9mbjduc0Bn Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Barony of Cynnabar. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. 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Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 Liberty School, Saline MI. Mistress Genoveva Steward $2260 breakeven 174 (may change) 1st of 3 Meetings There were no new proposals. Mistress Genoveva?s updated proposal was reviewed. Upcoming Baronial Events and Demos Terpsichore at the Tower April 1, 2017 Lord Gavriil. St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. Budget $500 Breakeven: 50. LUNCH TAVERN: Harkin?s Bid for this activity Appears under Old Business Masked Ball: Midair will be Master of Ceremonies. Lady Teryl will be leading some mask-making workshops; watch for Lady Aeffe?s email on the subject. Spring Revel Sunday April 23, 2017 Steward: Lady Alana Elenora $220 Island Park New Shelter (with bathrooms) Beer and Wine Permit arranged. Start- Noon. Practices (Armored Combat, Defense, Dancing) 12-3 pm Baronial Photo 3:00 -4:00 ? Wear Red if you can this year. Court approx 4:00 pm Potluck 5:00 pm after Court St Cecelia at The Tower May 20-21 2017 St Paul?s Church Saline & M-Union Anderson Rooms Ms Jadzia. Budget $400 ($200 per 10/17 notes.) Donations at the Door. Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 Site is reserved. Funding Deposit should go on the Agenda in January. Pay in March? See Event discussion above Old Business Kingdom 12th Night Reports missing: 12th Night: The report was to be complete and submitted by March 9. Check in on this issue 3/13/2017 ? As of 3/13/2017 meeting, the report was not complete. Exchequer Office Supplies. $50.00-$75.00 Lady Ilse 3rd of 3 meetings Needs: New water proof file boxes, file folders, Hanging File folders. Approved! Terpsichore Lunch Tavern April 1, 2017 St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. Lord Harkin $500 2nd of 3 Meetings Planning for 110 guests. Mid Eastern $5 Meal Deal, with Mujadara (Lentils) Chicken, sides, soda. Coffee & Tea Service all day. Event Proposal: Cook?s Symposium October 13, 14 & 15, 2017 St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. Baroness Hannah $525 2nd of 3 Meetings Cynnabar is asked to host the Biennial Middle Kingdom Cook?s Symposium. This event has happened for many years mostly in the Kalamazoo area. Support for Pentemere Shade Fly Rental (up to) $100 Baron Ermenrich. 2nd of 3 Meetings Sir Jorlief is organizing the rental of a large tent for the Pentemere Battlefield Presence and Shade Fly at Pennsic War. Can each Barony help out? Officer vacancies to be filled: Chatelaine ? Eidy has applied, 1st of 3 meetings. Minister of Youth ? Ze?ev Ben Ami (Adi Peshkess) has expressed interest on FB. Office of Group Marshal for Archery ? This is the Reporting part of the work. Lady Godaeth will continue as liaison and scheduler for practices held on private land Seneschal ? Derian le Breton has applied, 1st of 3 meetings. New Business (includes items potentially requiring budget outlays) Celtic Fest 2017 demo - $100 requested for snacks and drinks, 1st of 3 meetings Status check on approved budget items Registering the Baronial Awards and Order Names and Badges. Mistress Ursula, Herald. $100 ($36 disbursed 11/21) ($32 spent 2/13, disbursed 2/20) $42 remains to be spent. Restock Cards, Brochures- Chatelaine Box. $75 Lady Daye. Will advise when done. Herald?s Office Eadraed $40 for Supplies Eadraed - Check cut. Terpsichore Printing: Gavriil $190 for Dance Books, Class Schedules, Misc signs, etc. Announcements & Group Discussion Future New Business Idea: Let?s discuss a Policy for the use of the Baronial Trailer. We could not confirm that Baronial Financial Policies covered the use of major equipment. We think the policy will Over-ride any precedent set by a onetime use of the trailer for the Gulf War trip. Future New Business Idea: Purchase A-Frame (Sandwich Board) signs to mark event entrances. These are the plastic ones. Ms. Claire reports larger version of the one used by the Chatelaines office exists. Kay: Will someone research prices and availability? How much to put our own design on the sign? Or shall we add posters appropriate for each use? Baron and Baroness: Meeting Adjourned at about 8:30 pm. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20170313 BoC Minutes.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 88800 bytes Desc: not available URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Sun Mar 19 21:29:48 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Google Calendar via Barony) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:29:48 +0000 Subject: [Cynnabar] Notification: Mask making build night @ Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:30pm - 9:30pm (Cynnabar Arts & Sciences) Message-ID: This is a notification for: Title: Mask making build night Do you have your mask yet for the Terpsichore Ball? Come on over to Terryl's house Tuesday evening, March 21, where she has all the materials and know-how to get you started. If you already have your mask, drop in anyway to share the fun. Please note: Terryl's home has a cat and a dog. 5:30 to ~9:30, March 21, 1320 W. Huron, Ann Arbor. Parking in her driveway or on Revena St. Follow-up session: Sunday, March 26, 4-8 p.m., at the same location. When: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:30pm ? 9:30pm Eastern Time Calendar: Cynnabar Arts & Sciences Who: * atorsdottir at gmail.com - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ajUxcGJpY2VkN3ZidG1yNzhycnRjdTk0bzAgY252bnJsNHBxNnQ5Ymw2OG8zcm44ZjhiZDBAZw Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Arts & Sciences. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Sun Mar 19 23:02:44 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Brian F via Barony) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:02:44 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] 20170313 Cynnabar Meeting Notes. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One addition that I failed to write down: among the other new officer candidates, Lady Godaeth has applied to be the next chronicler (1st of 3 meetings, I believe). Derian. On Mar 19, 2017 5:20 PM, "Cynnabar Seneschal via Barony" < barony at cynnabar.org> wrote: Notes taken and Meeting Moderated by Master Derian le Breton. Thanks very much! Kay 20170313 Barony of Cynnabar Business Meeting Notes Center Room, Pierpont Commons No Workshop this week, craft hangout occurred 6:30 to 7:15. Meeting 7:30- 8:30. 10 attendees. Attending: Eadraed, Godaeth se Wisfaest, Aeffe Torsdottir, Tairdelbach ua Conall, Derian le Breton, Kasha Alekseeva, Harkin of the Moorlands, Morwen, Ceara Inghean Mhuirgheasa, Elisabeth Harstad Workshop Topics: There was no workshop tonight. Meeting began at _7:35_pm. Event Proposals for Grand Day of Tournaments 2017 are due today. Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 Liberty School, Saline MI. Mistress Genoveva Steward $2260 breakeven 174 (may change) 1st of 3 Meetings There were no new proposals. Mistress Genoveva?s updated proposal was reviewed. Upcoming Baronial Events and Demos Terpsichore at the Tower April 1, 2017 Lord Gavriil. St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. Budget $500 Breakeven: 50. LUNCH TAVERN: Harkin?s Bid for this activity Appears under Old Business Masked Ball: Midair will be Master of Ceremonies. Lady Teryl will be leading some mask-making workshops; watch for Lady Aeffe?s email on the subject. Spring Revel Sunday April 23, 2017 Steward: Lady Alana Elenora $220 Island Park New Shelter (with bathrooms) Beer and Wine Permit arranged. Start- Noon. Practices (Armored Combat, Defense, Dancing) 12-3 pm Baronial Photo 3:00 -4:00 ? Wear Red if you can this year. Court approx 4:00 pm Potluck 5:00 pm after Court St Cecelia at The Tower May 20-21 2017 St Paul?s Church Saline & M-Union Anderson Rooms Ms Jadzia. Budget $400 ($200 per 10/17 notes.) Donations at the Door. Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 Site is reserved. Funding Deposit should go on the Agenda in January. Pay in March? See Event discussion above Old Business Kingdom 12th Night Reports missing: 12th Night: The report was to be complete and submitted by March 9. Check in on this issue 3/13/2017 ? As of 3/13/2017 meeting, the report was not complete. Exchequer Office Supplies. $50.00-$75.00 Lady Ilse 3rd of 3 meetings Needs: New water proof file boxes, file folders, Hanging File folders. Approved! Terpsichore Lunch Tavern April 1, 2017 St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. Lord Harkin $500 2nd of 3 Meetings Planning for 110 guests. Mid Eastern $5 Meal Deal, with Mujadara (Lentils) Chicken, sides, soda. Coffee & Tea Service all day. Event Proposal: Cook?s Symposium October 13, 14 & 15, 2017 St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. Baroness Hannah $525 2nd of 3 Meetings Cynnabar is asked to host the Biennial Middle Kingdom Cook?s Symposium. This event has happened for many years mostly in the Kalamazoo area. Support for Pentemere Shade Fly Rental (up to) $100 Baron Ermenrich. 2nd of 3 Meetings Sir Jorlief is organizing the rental of a large tent for the Pentemere Battlefield Presence and Shade Fly at Pennsic War. Can each Barony help out? Officer vacancies to be filled: Chatelaine ? Eidy has applied, 1st of 3 meetings. Minister of Youth ? Ze?ev Ben Ami (Adi Peshkess) has expressed interest on FB. Office of Group Marshal for Archery ? This is the Reporting part of the work. Lady Godaeth will continue as liaison and scheduler for practices held on private land Seneschal ? Derian le Breton has applied, 1st of 3 meetings. New Business (includes items potentially requiring budget outlays) Celtic Fest 2017 demo - $100 requested for snacks and drinks, 1st of 3 meetings Status check on approved budget items Registering the Baronial Awards and Order Names and Badges. Mistress Ursula, Herald. $100 ($36 disbursed 11/21) ($32 spent 2/13, disbursed 2/20) $42 remains to be spent. Restock Cards, Brochures- Chatelaine Box. $75 Lady Daye. Will advise when done. Herald?s Office Eadraed $40 for Supplies Eadraed - Check cut. Terpsichore Printing: Gavriil $190 for Dance Books, Class Schedules, Misc signs, etc. Announcements & Group Discussion Future New Business Idea: Let?s discuss a Policy for the use of the Baronial Trailer. We could not confirm that Baronial Financial Policies covered the use of major equipment. We think the policy will Over-ride any precedent set by a onetime use of the trailer for the Gulf War trip. Future New Business Idea: Purchase A-Frame (Sandwich Board) signs to mark event entrances. These are the plastic ones. Ms. Claire reports larger version of the one used by the Chatelaines office exists. Kay: Will someone research prices and availability? How much to put our own design on the sign? Or shall we add posters appropriate for each use? 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In-Reply-To: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1236347554.788024.1488929741696@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <939304050.3358140.1489972945024@mail.yahoo.com> So far I've got 10 people signed up to bring desserts for the dessert revel at Terpsichore, and I'd like to have at least 20. ?If anyone else can bring something, please let me know so I won't worry about having enough food. -Magda- From: Debora Vanheyningen To: "barony at cynnabar.org" ; Singabar ; Cynnabar Dance ; Ritornello Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 6:35 PM Subject: Please Sign Up to Bring a Dessert to Terp! Hello fellow Cynnabarbarians, Once again this year I am organizing the dessert revel for our dance event, Terpsichore at the Tower. The event will be on Saturday, April 1st this year, and the dessert revel will take place between sets of the evening ball. Traditionally, Cynnabar folks (and occasionally a few others) bring desserts for the revel, which are then enjoyed by everyone attending. Please let me know ASAP whether you can bring something for the revel, even if you're not yet sure what you'll bring. I would like to encourage everyone in the Barony who possibly can do so to contribute something. I will once again be doing a subtletie style cake myself. The revel at our event has become known for it's variety and abundance of food (I've been told by other dancers that Terp has the BEST dessert revel), and I'd like to keep that up. We had one year where I nagged less than usual, and we ended up being a bit on the skimpy side food-wise, so I'd like to keep that from happening again. You can email me or message me on Facebook to sign up. If you don't know what to bring, please go ahead and sign up now and decide exactly what to make or buy later. The purpose of the list is to make sure that there will be enough food, and that not everyone brings the same thing (some duplication is fine, but if everyone in the barony showed up with a bag of grapes that would be a bit silly). We should have a table somewhere where subtleties can be on display during the day, and space in the kitchen to stash desserts that won't do well sitting in a car all day. With the event being on April 1st, I'd like to particularly encourage anyone so inclined to do their own "Fool the eye" foods. ?Googling "April Fools Day desserts" may give you some ideas. Thanks!? More info is below for those that need/want it. -Magda -------------------------------------------------------------- Some general guidelines (not rules) as to what to bring: Try to stick to finger food, or things that can be eaten with just a fork. Lots of something small is probably better than a few of something large. This will let more people sample each thing (buffets tend to make folks want to try a little of everything). Presentation counts. Brownies arranged on a plate look nicer than brownies still in the pan. They can also be grabbed more quickly, so the line will move faster. Nothing slows down a line like having everyone stop to cut themselves pieces of things, so precut anything where that won't destroy the presentation. If you buy something, serving it from something more period looking than the cardboard box it came in will make a better impression. If you want to try making something that actually is period, you can talk to me, or any of the cooks in the barony for ideas. There is also a lot of great information at Stephan's Florilegium in the food sections (http://www.florilegium.org). Some examples of period choices would include marzipan (which can be shaped or molded, rolled into balls, or just cut into squares), custards, fresh or dried fruit, pastries, candied fruit peels or flowers, gingerbread, shortbread, sugar paste (gum paste), some cookies (not involving chocolate, or baking powder or soda), biscotti, sweet breads (with or without fruit), nuts or fruit tarts. Subtleties (decorated foods, or foods which look like something other than what they are) were a medieval favorite, and would be great if anyone has any recipes or ideas along those lines which they want to try out. These can range from the ridiculous to the sublime, and generally do so in the SCA. Examples we've had have included cakes in the shapes of things (flower basket, tower, rock, lute), cookies with the cinnabar arms on them or shaped like elephants, a tower made of hostess cupcakes, and brownie battlefields of fighting marshmallow bunnies. These are often impressive and/or entertaining. If you don't have the time, inclination, or facilities to do something period and/or elaborate, you can bring anything that you think folks will want to eat between sets of a ball. All types of cookies and candies are welcome, as are salty snacks, veggies and dip, appetizers etc. Non-medieval food is fine, especially if it's homemade. Chocolate may not be period, but it always seems to disappear rapidly. All of the above are guidelines, not rules. Anything you bring will likely be happily consumed by hungry dancers in need of energy. Oh, and if you bring something which has non-obvious nuts in it, you might want to mark it as such, so that folks with allergies will know what to avoid. (Putting a "Warning--contains nuts" sign next to a bowl of mixed nuts is not really necessary, although it may be amusing). Thank you for helping our group provide hospitality to our guests, and I look forward to seeing you at Terp. -Lady Magdalena Vogelsang P.S. 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More information: http://www.cynnabar.org/eurodance When: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7pm ? 10pm Eastern Time Where: Michigan League, North University Avenue, Ann Arbor, MI, United States (Koessler Room) Calendar: Cynnabar Music and Dance Who: * Aaron Elkiss - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bmppMHNqYTkzNjFrNjR2MWRoODZzdWZwaWtfMjAxNzAzMTVUMjMwMDAwWiA4cjE3cDBybWFjMmVydGFtMGxnZ2FkMTFnc0Bn Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Music and Dance. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. 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In-Reply-To: <939304050.3358140.1489972945024@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1236347554.788024.1488929741696.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1236347554.788024.1488929741696@mail.yahoo.com> <939304050.3358140.1489972945024@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1205549739.1892123.1490332036139@mail.yahoo.com> Terp is just over a week away, and I still have only a dozen people signed up to bring stuff for the Dessert Revel, and 5 of them are bringing savory items, and one is bringing milk. ?Which is great, but it means that so far, even with my cake, we only have about 7 desserts coming, which is going to be pretty scant compared to our usual spread. For those who don't have the time or inclination to make something, there are plenty of things you can grab at the grocery store which would be great to have. ?Strawberries, for example, always go quickly, no matter how many we have. ?Cheesecake is usually popular. ?Those little min-tarts you can buy would work nicely. ?Cookies and pie are both good, and the closer they look to homemade the faster they usually go, so something from the bakery dept. at the store would be great. Little mini-cakes or brownie bites would also work well. ?Candy is always an option too. Even if you have no idea what you're going to bring, please let me know that you plan to bring something, so I won't worry about running out of food before everyone has had a chance to get through the line. Thanks in advance, -Magda- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A number of people have volunteered on this list and in the Baronial Facebook group to help others with mask-making, so please don't be shy about asking for help if you'd like to make one. To learn more about the event, view the website here . If you'd like to help with the event, consider coming to the book assembly night . It would also be *very *helpful if you would sign up to bring a dessert to the dessert revel (see Magda's post here ). I hope to see all of you at the event! Sincerely in your service, Kasha Alekseeva, Baroness of Cynnabar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4pm ? 8pm Eastern Time Calendar: Cynnabar Arts & Sciences Who: * atorsdottir at gmail.com - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=MGo0NWZjbnEwMnI4aTBkcXB1bm1najhqdWMgY252bnJsNHBxNnQ5Ymw2OG8zcm44ZjhiZDBAZw Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Arts & Sciences. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Sat Mar 25 10:07:12 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Cynnabar Seneschal via Barony) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 06:07:12 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] 20170320 Barony of Cynnabar Business Meeting Notes Message-ID: NOTE: Master Derian will be away next week, so discussion of his candidacy for Seneschal will be postponed until the April 10 Meeting. Thanks to Baroness Hannah for this wise suggestion and to Master Derian for agreeing to continue disucssions when he can be present. I urge you to contact Derian in person if you have questions about his candidacy. *Kay* 20170320 Barony of Cynnabar Business Meeting Notes Boulevard Room, Pierpont Commons Workshop at 6:30 pm 10 attendees Meeting 7:30- 8:30. 23 attendees. Attending: Eadraed, Godaeth se Wisfaest, Aeffe Torsdottir, Hannah Schreiber, Tairdelbach ua Conall, Derian le Breton, Kasha Alekseeva, Harkin of the Moorlands, Morwen, Ceara Inghean Mhuirgheasa, Ilse, Nezkha, Max, UIllec, Theo, Magdalena, Grey Oddson, Hattie, Johannes Robbertszoon, Her Grace, Princess Consuela Banana Hammock (Masking as Sir Gregoire) *Workshop Topics:* *Tonight was: *Masks in the Middle Ages with Sir Gregoire de Lyon Meeting began at _7:33_pm. *Upcoming Baronial Events and Demos* *Terpsichore at the Tower **April 1, 2017 Lord Gavriil.* St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. *B**udget $500* Breakeven: 50. ? LUNCH TAVERN: *Harkin?s Bid *for this activity Appears under *Old Business* ? Mask Workshop was held at Teryl?s on Tuesday 3/21. ? *Dessert Revel*: Costs for Dessert Revel were not specifically in the budget. Some of the traditional Subtlety has been reimbursed for past events. It is too late to change appropriations before the event. o Paper supplies will be donated by various o Gavriil, please look into covering some of Madga?s unusual costs from the Misc Funds allocated for the Event. *Spring Revel Sunday April 23, 2017* Steward: Lady Alana Elenora $220 ? Aaron putting this on the Calendar. Will use Kay?s name as needed. ? Alanna will get the website up this week. ? REMEMBER: While we have no ?Gate Fee? for this event everyone attending should sign the list waiver. It also lets the Steward know how many people attended. *St Cecelia at The Tower *May 20-21* 2017 *St Paul?s Church Saline & M-Union Anderson Rooms* Ms Jadzia. Budget $400 ($200 per 10/17 notes.) *Donations at the Door. ? The Web Site is up! *Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 *Liberty School, Saline MI.* Mistress Genoveva Steward $2260 breakeven 174 (may change) * ? *Site is reserved. *Deposit should go to the school in July. *Old Business* *Kingdom 12th Night Reports missing: * 12th Night: The report was to be complete and submitted by March 9. *Check in on this issue 3/13/2017 ? As of 3/13/2017 meeting, the report was not complete.* ? The Baron, Steward, Exchequer, Seneschal and Deputy Seneschal will meet Tuesday to complete and send the report and Profit Sharing Check. ? *DONE 3/21/17 DKJ* *Grand Day of Tournaments- Nov 4, 2017 *Liberty School, Saline MI.* Mistress Genoveva Steward $2260 breakeven 174 (may change) 3rd of 3 Meetings* APPROVED No questions or objections. *Terpsichore Lunch Tavern April 1, 2017 *St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI.* Lord Harkin $500 3rd of 3 Meetings* APPROVED Planning for 110 guests. Mid Eastern $5 Meal Deal, with Mujadara (Lentils) Chicken, sides, soda. Coffee & Tea Service all day. *Event Proposal: Cook?s Symposium October 13, 14 & 15, 2017 *St Paul?s Church of Christ, Saline MI. *Baroness Hannah $525 3rd of 3 Meetings* APPROVED ? Teachers are being recruited. ? Outdoor cooking as been approved by the Site. It will be possible to have a Fire pit. *Support for Pentemere Shade Fly Rental (up to) $100 Baron Ermenrich. 3rd of 3 Meetings* APPROVED ? Sir Jorlief is organizing the rental of a large tent 20?x30? for the Pentemere Battlefield Presence and Shade Fly at Pennsic War. It should hold 45 people as a meeting space. Numbers will vary for piles of armor and equipment. ? Can each Barony help out? *Celtic Fest 2017 demo *? Baron Tairdelbach $100 requested for snacks and drinks, 2nd of 3 meetings ? This does not include bottled water as the Event provides that to participants. ? No Objections were raised. *Officer vacancies to be filled:* 1. Chatelaine ? Eidy has applied, 2nd of 3 meetings. Eidy will be accepting questions and comments on Facebook and via the Barony email list. She will soon be done with the class that has occupied her Mondays. Plans for the office include making and finding items for Gold Key, and a New Member Pilgrimage activity. 2. Minister of Youth ? 3. Office of Group Marshal for Archery ? 4. Seneschal ? Derian le Breton has applied, 2nd of 3 meetings. Derian is out of town March 27. Discussion on his candidacy will pause until the first meeting in April. In the meantime note that he has been the seneschal of an SCA college. He is also active in in leadership roles in his professional organizations. 5. Chronicler ? Forester Godaeth has offered herself as a candidate. Her goals for the Citadel are to provide both the flow of information or knowledge and the recording of history. The anniversary of the Barony provides a special opportunity, too. *New Business* (includes items potentially requiring budget outlays) *Supplies and Ingredients for Terpsichore Dessert Revel. Lady Magdalena. SEE* Terpsichore Event discussion, above. *Future New Business Idea:* Purchase A-Frame (Sandwich Board) signs to mark event entrances. Is anyone interested in taking on this project? *Status check on approved budget items * *Registering the Baronial Awards and Order Names and Badges. *Mistress Ursula, Herald. $100 ($36 disbursed 11/21) ($32 spent 2/13, disbursed 2/20) $42 remains to be spent. *Restock Cards,* *Brochures-** Chatelaine Box. *$75 Lady Daye. Will advise when done. *Terpsichore Printing: Gavriil $190 *for Dance Books, Class Schedules, Misc signs, etc. *Exchequer Office Supplies. $50.00-$75.00 *Lady Ilse *Announcements** & Group Discussion* *Note from Army General Cassius Maximus: *Battle Schedules for Pennsic have changed as part of War Negotiations. This year instead of having armored battles in morning and rapier battles in afternoon the two schools of combat will alternate days. 2 Armored battles will happen on one day, 2 Rapier battles on the second day, and so on. *Does Cynnabar have a Standard*, a long, long, long pennant shaped flag? No one thinks we do. Project Idea! Kay may look into this in the future. It would be a fine accessory for the Battlefield or Encampments of the Barony. Discussion on holding a *TRIAL RUN of Meetings at Frenchie?s/ The Side Track Tap in Depot Town Ypsilanti?* ? DO they have media connections, a projector, and a screen? ? Would we be able to Book the room for a year? ? Can staff take orders as member arrive? ? Kay will ask these questions. *The Michigan Union is Closing for Renovations! *We will need to identify Dance Practice and Combat Practice spaces for April 2018 through January 2020. Godaeth will ask about gyms at Saline area schools. *If YOU know of a place that is free and publicly accessible* please investigate and tell the Barony. *Future New Business Idea:* Let?s discuss a *Policy for the use of the Baronial Trailer*. We could not confirm that Baronial Financial Policies covered the use of major equipment. We think the policy will Over-ride any precedent set by a onetime use of the trailer for the Gulf War trip. *Baron and Baroness:* Ermenrich spoke of his travels to Gulf War, but I was so caught up in his story that no notes were taken. Please send Their Excellencies your award recommendations for Baronial Court at Terpsichore. Meeting Adjourned at about _8:55_ pm. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:30pm ? 7:30pm Eastern Time Calendar: Cynnabar Arts & Sciences Who: * atorsdottir at gmail.com - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bGNybDdvMHFrYXNvMjE5YmVuOGFtcGxhdG8gY252bnJsNHBxNnQ5Ymw2OG8zcm44ZjhiZDBAZw Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Cynnabar Arts & Sciences. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:30pm ? 8:30pm Eastern Time Where: Center Room, Pierpont Commons, 2101 Bonisteel Blvd, Ann Arbor, MI 48109 Calendar: Barony of Cynnabar Who: * Carol Perry Lagemann - creator Event details: https://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cDN2anB1aWowb2owbnE4MG5vc2dzMmR0amNfMjAxNzAzMjdUMjMzMDAwWiBoaGxiMzhyNmdzOWRqMGc0c2ZuMG9mbjduc0Bn Invitation from Google Calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/ You are receiving this email at the account barony at cynnabar.org because you are subscribed for notifications on calendar Barony of Cynnabar. To stop receiving these emails, please log in to https://www.google.com/calendar/ and change your notification settings for this calendar. Forwarding this invitation could allow any recipient to modify your RSVP response. Learn more at https://support.google.com/calendar/answer/37135#forwarding -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Tue Mar 28 20:05:37 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Jack Flint via Barony) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:05:37 -0400 Subject: [Cynnabar] Question for the assemblage..... Message-ID: Hail and well met, residents of Cynnabar!!! ((Surprise, I keep showing up everywhere, don't I? *laughs*)) Seriously, though- I am seeking guidance/information, with the hopes that someone here can aid me. As many of you know, I've been actively seeking employment down state for several months now. Well, I just had a second phone interview for a position that I am eminently qualified for, and the starting pay is quite a pay raise from what I am making now. Bina and I are now stepping up our search for a new place to live, and are hoping to get some help from you folks. We're looking for either a 3 bedroom, or 2 bedroom with either a basement or garage. There are now three of us and two cats, since my son has moved in with us, We are trying to stay at a max budget of $800/month, if at all possible. We're looking in the Novi/Northville areas. With Bina working in Commerce, and the position I am up for will either be in Warren or Pontiac (There are two positions available, but they know I would prefer the Warren one).we're trying to find something in between, but still in Cynnabar lands. If anyone has any thoughts, I would love to hear them. You can either message me back here, on FB (which I believe a large number of you have me on) , or directly at qm.blackjack.flint at gmail.com I thank you all for your input and assistance in advance!!!! -- *In Service to the Crown, Dream, and Populace,* *Lord Jack Black of Flint* *Known as BlackJack * *Owner of the Merchant Ship "Raptor"* *Brute for Hire * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If someone can get me in touch with her, or knows if Their Graces plan on attending Terp this weekend where I can speak with her, I would be indebted. Thanks much! -- *In Service to the Crown, Dream, and Populace,* *Lord Jack Black of Flint* *Known as BlackJack * *Owner of the Merchant Ship "Raptor"* *Brute for Hire * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barony at cynnabar.org Fri Mar 31 13:21:15 2017 From: barony at cynnabar.org (Debora Vanheyningen via Barony) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 13:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Cynnabar] Terp Dessert Revel. References: <520283507.1114614.1490966475940.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <520283507.1114614.1490966475940@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all those who have signed up to bring desserts. ?We're now at about what I considered the minimal number of desserts needed, but more would still be great if anyone else can bring something. 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