[Cynnabar] Proposed Thoughts on Thursday Meetings

[Monique Rio via Barony]

We may be moving to a new (better) Thursday site, and when we are working
with the yearly budget the need for lengthy discussions about each
expenditure may go down. I'd rather wait until we've given both of these
changes some time before going back to having separate business meetings.

-Jadzia
Cynnabar Exchequer

P.S. If anyone wants to help prepare the budget for next year please let me
know.

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019, 12:16 PM David Hoornstra via Barony <
barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:

> Kelly/Birke,
>
> I think you have made many of the points I would have. Quite well.
>
> I would add that a tight time-frame can work for “finished” fighters and
> fencers whose gear is complete and works well. Others may need more time to
> tweak things between fights or just get get ready and then wrap up
> afterwards.
>
> Just as tourney formats often favor the already-champions, a tight
> practice schedule helps those who have got it all together mnore than it
> helps others.
>
> And the less-perfect shape you’re in, the heavier the toll it takes on the
> next day whether work or school. Now that I have to work again I pay that
> price Wednesday and Friday — all day -- for Tuesday and Thursday night’s
> fencing.
>
> In my case *and some other candidates for SCA activity*, Thursday night
> is already double-booked. If I don’t go fence at the Y (my modern practice
> time and some of my students) there is the HEMA club at EMU that needs our
> help. So far I haven’t made it to the latter.
>
> David/Daibhid
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Kell Carnahan via Barony <barony at cynnabar.org>
> *Reply-To: *Kell Carnahan <wyndsung at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Sat, 9 Mar 2019 10:11:48 -0500
> *To: *cynnabar <barony at cynnabar.org>
> *Subject: *[Cynnabar] Proposed Thoughts on Thursday Meetings
>
> Hiya, Cynnabar,
>
> After contemplating thoughts of new practice sites yesterday evening and
> my feelings on our local practice lately vs the regional practice in
> Jackson last month, I’ve come to a new conclusion:
>
>
> I think that business meetings should not happen at Baronial omnibus
> gatherings/fighter practice.
>
>
> What I *thought* having it all in one place would be like:  Oh, great,
> it’ll be like whenever people taught a music/A&S class besides fighter
> practice, and the entire Barony is there!  I love those days!
>
>
> What including the business meeting at practices is actually like:
>
>    - Business meetings feel rushed and annoying because they’re eating
>    into socializing/fighting time
>    -
>    - Fighter practices get compressed and rushed and almost not worth it,
>    for those of us who can’t stay up really late
>
>
>
> A general best case scenario, because we’re a great active Barony that
> does a lot, is that a business meeting lasts a half hour.  This is with
> rushing through everything and not having fuller discussions of any points.
>
>
> So, best case scenario, the meeting feels rushed, and ends at 7:30.  By
> the time everyone says hi to one another, trickles into fighting area, gets
> armored up, and ends vital community bonding time of “how are you doing?”
> updates, it’s 7:45 - 8 pm.
>
>
> I’m not the only one who needs to leave practices by 9 pm to be able to
> get sleep themselves, or get their children to sleep.  That means armoring
> down by around 8:45 pm, to pack up and say goodbye and leave by 9 pm.
>
>
> 45 minutes - 1 hour of compressed practice time means that:
>
>    - Can’t do drills, sparring, AND melee work ever.  Basically ensures
>    melee work will never happen at these practices, like they used to at
>    rapier practices that actually had more time.
>    -
>    - Can’t do tournaments, because there’s no time for that and
>    practicing anything.
>    -
>    - I can’t organize to have teachers or outsiders come visit our
>    practices, because with variable meeting times, practice time doesn’t start
>    at the same time AND there’s little time for a class and any practicing,
>    AND the compressed time makes traveling further to our practices not worth
>    it.  This really limits the capability of Cynnabar practices.
>
>
>
> I’d say move practices to Sundays again to free up more time, but once
> summer event season starts in May, there’s still the argument that Sundays
> are needed for other life stuff when most Saturdays are taken by events or
> other summer happenings.
>
>
> You can’t tell me to “just skip the business meeting” because 1) I like
> being aware and giving input to my Barony, and 2) almost everyone else is
> still at the meeting, so practice can’t really start anyway.  What’s the
> best end result to this line of reasoning?  No fighters who need to leave
> by 9 pm (not an unreasonable time) can be at business meetings if they want
> to fight?  That feels exclusionary, even if it’s not the intent.
>
>
> Having business meetings at practices means business meetings are rushed
> and don’t happen well, socializing is rushed and doesn’t happen well, and
> fighter practice is compressed to the point of almost not feeling worth it,
> and therefore doesn’t happen well.
>
>
> The best answer to opening up Thursday evening fighter practice/Baronial
> omnibus gathering to actually feel connecting and uplifting and awesome
> again: get rid of the business meeting on that evening.  It was a nice
> concept, but it’s not working out well.  Then practices and socializing and
> everything can actually start between 6:30-7 pm and have a good long chunk
> of evening to do all the things without feeling rushed and cramped.
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ~Birke die Jaegerin
>
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