<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Randy, thanks for the promotion. :) I'm not a Baron.<br><br>DeForest<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 5/28/10, Randy Asplund <i><randyasplund@comcast.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Randy Asplund <randyasplund@comcast.net><br>Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] meeting minutes for 5/24/10<br>To: "Barony of Cynnabar" <barony@cynnabar.org><br>Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 10:54 PM<br><br><div id="yiv341199384">
Baron Slyme makes some really REALLY good points, and I for one hate fighting out doors in winter. I think we have gotten much from our association with the UofM, and strongly believe we should do everything we can to maintain the student organization there. That means recruiting. It means Festifall and how ever else we can advertise to students in Ann Arbor.<div><br></div><div>Now that being said, let us not forget that EMU is also a university, and a legitimate complaint from EMU attendees in the past has been that it is very hard for them to get to A2 for meetings. If we met near EMU campus -the Corner Brewery for example, we might very well get some new faces showing up. Yeah, it's tougher for those of us in NW A2 to get there, but we have cars and could probably carpool. Not such a big deal, and I'd be happy to do that. </div><div><br></div><div>RanthulfR</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On May 28, 2010, at 8:23 PM, deforest piper
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px;">As His Excellency has pointed out, he does not believe that we even<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0px;">qualify as a student group at this time. We have never understood why<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0px;">we depend on the University when we get so little return. Other groups that > do not have a University in there area grow and even prosper. Maybe it is > time we stop depending on the University so much. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div> </blockquote><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin:
0px;">To clear this up, we have the students necessary (at least that is what I understood if I am wrong please let me know). When we went through this last we had enough students between the fencing group and the singers to meet that requirement.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">What we do not have, and what we need to be a real student group, is a constitution for the campus SCA group and student officers for this group.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">When I was Seneschal I tried to get this taken care of. At that time it would have been relatively easy to do -- it still might be.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">The reason that it didn't get taken care of then is that some people in the group were very, very, very, very, very much opposed to this happening.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Which is silly since we get a huge amount from having a student group and a presence on campus. A huge amount!</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Over the 30+ years of Cynnabar's association with the University we have gotten, what?, a hundred members (probably more) solely because of that association? Some have stayed a couple weeks some have stayed years, but they _all_ have contributed something towards making Cynnabar great.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Without a student group we wouldn't have a martial practice site for 7 months of the year. I am anxious to avoid being _that_ group that doesn't have martial practices.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Having a
presence on campus also helps Cynnabar with our core goal. We can't force people to learn but by being on campus we have plenty of opportunities to let people know we exist and what we do. After all one of the possible first steps for an educational group is to let people know that the educational experience is available.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Also, Cynnabar is growing a lot more than most groups and most of that growth comes from activities that our association with campus allows us.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">My view on the topic of moving meeting sites is that it probably doesn't matter. I think that there are core issues that no one wants to address and until these are dealt with nothing much will change. So it doesn't
really matter.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">For me it would depend on whether it is a smoking restaurant or not. If it is, or even if I have to walk through a smoky area to get to where the meeting is then I would very rarely, if ever, attend a meeting.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">DeForest</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin: 0px;">Barony mailing list</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Barony@cynnabar.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=Barony@cynnabar.org">Barony@cynnabar.org</a></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><a rel="nofollow"
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