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    Well said by all. Warder Arnold mentioned needing smaller fencing
    masks for the younger fencers. I own two practice blades that I will
    donate to the barony, especially since my daughter now uses steel
    weapons.<br>
    <br>
    I think a youth fighting program could only benefit the barony.
    Further discussion and planning of course is needed.<br>
    <br>
    Johannes<br>
    <br>
    On 11/17/2011 2:21 PM, Randy Asplund wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:C5A27A9C-CE13-4D6B-9249-408C76F6D68D@comcast.net"
      type="cite">Lady Sunnifa,
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I just wanted to pass my complements on an extremely well
        written and informative post!</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>RanthulfR</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
        <div>
          <div>On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Charlotte Mayhew wrote:</div>
          <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <title>Re: [Cynnabar] P.S. Youth fighting in Cynnabar</title>
            <div> <font face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0px"><br>
                  To encourage youth fighting in Cynnabar, just start
                  hosting a once-a-month youth practice.  Publicize it
                  throughout Michigan and Ohio groups and hold it on a
                  *different* week than the Detroit youth practice.<br>
                  <br>
                  Marshal activities all fall under the Marshalate, not
                  under Children’s Activities.  A Youth Authorized
                  Marshal with a full understanding of the armor &
                  weapons requirements should run this, not a Minister
                  of Youth.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <b>Youth Rapier:<br>
                  </b>Warder Arnold and Warder Miguel are both Youth
                  Authorized Fencing Marshals.<br>
                  <br>
                  The armor for adult and youth rapier is the same, only
                  the weapons are different.  So the Barony’s loaner
                  equipment is suitable for youth.  The biggest issue
                  here is that fencing is a well-attended practice and
                  sometimes fencers (of all ages) have to wait for their
                  turn in armor.<br>
                  <br>
                  The fencers as a group have been very welcoming to my
                  children and the friends they’ve brought to practice.
                   They have been very willing to work with and teach
                  them.  I daresay there’s already a youth rapier
                  practice in Cynnabar; it’s just mixed in with the
                  regular one.  Still, I think a monthly designated
                  youth rapier practice would be well-attended.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <b>Youth Heavy Fighting:<br>
                  </b>A newbie doesn’t need armor to hold a sword and
                  learn to hit a fully-armored fighter.  If you get the
                  interested youths to come to practice, and figure out
                  ways for them to participate without full armor,
                  you’re halfway there.  Running hands-on classes on
                  various weapons, shields, long weapons, etc., will all
                  engage interested new fighters.  Then you can get them
                  armored up one by one.<br>
                  <br>
                  With 4 different levels of armor and weapons
                  requirements, getting loaner armor together is much
                  more complicated than it is for rapier.  It would be a
                  good idea to write up a one-page summary of armor
                  requirements for each age group, with an emphasis on
                  regular sports equipment that can be purchased.  This
                  would be helpful to newbie parents, who might just go
                  purchase needed equipment.  This is especially true of
                  the younger ages, where most of the armor is easy and
                  inexpensive to buy.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  One of the biggest hitches to recruiting interested
                  youth fighters is that you also have to recruit their
                  parents.  It would be a good idea to know whether you
                  want to recruit all ages of youth (from 6-18) or if
                  you just want to concentrate on teens.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  This is my 2 cents, based on my experiences with my
                  kids in youth combat and fencing.<br>
                  <br>
                  --Sunnifa (Charlotte)<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  On 11/16/11 7:57 PM, "Randy Asplund" <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:randyasplund@comcast.net">randyasplund@comcast.net</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <br>
                </span></font>
              <blockquote type="cite"><font face="Verdana, Helvetica,
                  Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0px">Oh, I forgot to
                    mention- Actually, I believe that Ld. Arnold is a
                    Youth Fencing Marshal, so I am not the only Youth
                    Marshal.<br>
                    <br>
                    I'm writing from Craft Night and there is a little
                    talk going on right now posing the question of
                    wether the group might like to add a Minister of
                    Youth so we could have someone who can help
                    coordinate activities for the children of the
                    Barony.<br>
                    <br>
                    Just food for thought (to go with the pizza we just
                    had and the home-made apple pie & ice cream we
                    are about to have...)<br>
                    <br>
                    RanthulfR<br>
                    <br>
                    On Nov 16, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Greg Less wrote:<br>
                    <br>
                  </span></font>
                <blockquote type="cite"><font face="Verdana, Helvetica,
                    Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0px">Before we get
                      to far down this path of buying and prepping... do
                      we actually have any youth that are interested in
                      fighting, are in the same age division as other
                      youths and have parents that are willing to commit
                      to making sure we have critical mass? Furthermore,
                      the barony has exactly one authorized youth
                      marshal. The authorization process, not to mention
                      the background check, make the prospect of us
                      getting more seem slim at best.<br>
                       <br>
                      So, I guess my question is - why are we
                      considering this and who plans on supporting?<br>
                      <br>
                      Thanks,<br>
                      -Gregoire.<br>
                      <br>
                      On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Randy Asplund
                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:randyasplund@comcast.net">randyasplund@comcast.net</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                       <br>
                    </span></font>
                  <blockquote type="cite"><font face="Verdana,
                      Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0px">Actually,
                        I was just out at Share House on Jackson d. the
                        other day and they had a lot of hockey helmets
                        and other stuff for CHEAP.<br>
                         <br>
                        RanthulfR<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        On Nov 16, 2011, at 4:03 PM, <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:andrew@prometheusmotionpictures.com">andrew@prometheusmotionpictures.com</a>
                        wrote:<br>
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                      </span></font>
                    <blockquote type="cite"><font face="Verdana,
                        Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size:12.0px">
                                <br>
                             Recycle Ann Arbor has youth hockey helmets
                          (usually 2 or 3) on the shelf nearly everytime
                          I go there.  Hockey pants and elbow and knee
                          pads as well.  <br>
                           <br>
                          <br>
                             I'm not in a position right now to
                          volunteer for anything, but in the future I
                          would be interested in getting a youth combat
                          authorization / marshalette.  I've already
                          been background checked to death from working
                          at CPS, and would certainly be willing to do
                          it again.  <br>
                           <br>
                          <br>
                             Best,  <br>
                             Hjorleif  <br>
                                <br>
                            <br>
                             <br>
                             On November 16, 2011 at 3:27 PM Randy
                          Asplund <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:randyasplund@comcast.net">randyasplund@comcast.net</a>>
                          wrote:   <br>
                             <br>
                             > Unto the members of the Barony,
                          Greetings from Sir RanthulfR, Youth    <br>
                             > Marshal, etc.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > At our last Baronial meeting we had a
                          discussion about promoting Youth    <br>
                             > fighting in both boffer and rapier in
                          Cynnabar. I volunteered to write    <br>
                             > to Lord Nylas Kazmer, the Kingdom
                          & Pentamere officer responsible for    <br>
                             > Youth Combat, and ask his advice.  The
                          following is my letter to him    <br>
                             > and his reply back (posted with
                          permission). I am forwarding it to you    <br>
                             > all because it is a bit much for
                          reporting at a meeting, and it    <br>
                             > affects many who are not regular at
                          the meetings.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > > On Nov 14, 2011, at 9:34 PM,
                          Randy Asplund wrote:   <br>
                             > >   <br>
                             > >> Hi Kazmer,   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > >> This is a scoping out kind of
                          letter. I just got back from the    <br>
                             > >> Cynnabar weekly business
                          meeting. The subject of demos for boy    <br>
                             > >> scouts came up. I suggested
                          that we talk to youth fighters in the    <br>
                             > >> area and see if any wanted to
                          be in a demo for kids close to their    <br>
                             > >> age. That inspired a long
                          discussion about what we could do to get    <br>
                             > >> youth fighting going here.   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > >> We all recognize that we have
                          parents bring kids around every once    <br>
                             > >> in a while, the kids are
                          enthused, but  we have no loaner gear or    <br>
                             > >> youth of the right age/size
                          for them to spar with.  The people at    <br>
                             > >> the meeting all want to have
                          the barony be ready to provide youth    <br>
                             > >> fighting, but we just don't
                          seem to have the youth critical mass to    <br>
                             > >> accomplish it.   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > >> I suggested that we point
                          parents to the materials online so they    <br>
                             > >> could become familiar with
                          armor & weapon standards and learn the    <br>
                             > >> rules. Then we would send
                          them to the larger youth practices when    <br>
                             > >> they are held out near
                          Detroit. My thought being that once we had a
                             <br>
                             > >> few doing that, we wold gain
                          the critical mass locally to pt it    <br>
                             > >> together here with
                          regularity.   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > >> The concern expressed by the
                          others was that once they went out to    <br>
                             > >> Detroit, -if indeed the
                          parents could be talked into that drive-    <br>
                             > >> they wold keep going there
                          instead of settling here, even after    <br>
                             > >> local opponents were found.
                            <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > >> I asked if they would like me
                          to write to you to see if you might    <br>
                             > >> have some helpful suggestions
                          on how to get our group "over the    <br>
                             > >> hump" so to speak.   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > SNIP   <br>
                             > >> Have you any advice or
                          thoughts on it?   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             > >> RanthulfR   <br>
                             > >>   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Lord
                          Kazmer wrote:   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > Sir RanthulfR,   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > Achieving a “critical mass” is always
                          the problem with youth combat.      <br>
                             > Nothing is more frustrating for the
                          kids than not having anyone to    <br>
                             > play with.  One of the reasons that
                          youth combat has been successful    <br>
                             > at the Roaring Waste practice is that
                          we draw from several groups.  No    <br>
                             > one group usually has enough kids for
                          a viable practice but by drawing    <br>
                             > on the surrounding groups the critical
                          mass can be achieved.  The    <br>
                             > Roaring Waste practice is really a
                          regional practice and by holding it    <br>
                             > once a month we can sort of
                          concentrate participation.  There is a    <br>
                             > limit to how far parents will drive
                          though, probably less than an hour.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > Some of the marshals in Andelcrag are
                          trying to get a Baronial youth    <br>
                             > combat practice started out there
                          because, again, they don’t have    <br>
                             > enough kids in any one group but the
                          barony as a whole has quite a    <br>
                             > few.  They want to try the once a
                          month model but are having trouble    <br>
                             > settling on when and where.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > An Ann Arbor practice could also draw
                          in other groups.  I know there    <br>
                             > are interested kids in Talonval and
                          Weald Lake.  Some have come to my    <br>
                             > practice on occasion.  A trip to Ann
                          Arbor would be much more feasible    <br>
                             > for these parents than to come to my
                          practice.  You could also draw    <br>
                             > from Brackendelve.  The Detroit area
                          youth combat practice is always    <br>
                             > the last Sunday of the month.  If
                          Cynnabar started a monthly practice,    <br>
                             > the second Sunday for example, those
                          who are inclined to could attend    <br>
                             > both.  Some of the kids who come to my
                          practice would attend more than    <br>
                             > one a month if available, but we have
                          been reluctant to hold ours more    <br>
                             > often for fear of losing that
                          “critical mass”.  When we started, about    <br>
                             > 12 years ago, we had my son Bill, and
                          Maximilian’s son Odd.  Those two    <br>
                             > got awfully tired of only having the
                          other to fight with.  As time    <br>
                             > went on, and with the availability of
                          loaner gear, we got more kids to    <br>
                             > play.  One of the “problems” with YC
                          is that the kids do age-out.      <br>
                             > About three years ago we had a bunch
                          of division 3 kids at my    <br>
                             > practice.  Then they started turning
                          18 and were gone.  Leoric from    <br>
                             > Weald Lake was the last one.  Now my
                          oldest regular participants are    <br>
                             > 14, but I have 5 or 6 more right
                          behind them in division 2.  Wait a    <br>
                             > couple years and I’ll have a bunch of
                          division 3 kids again.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > On-line information for parents is
                          somewhat lacking, other than the    <br>
                             > kingdom rules.  This is an area which
                          I want to correct.  I hope to    <br>
                             > get some more resources posted to the
                          kingdom website.   <br>
                             > Loaner gear seems to be the key.
                           Parents are dis-inclined to spend    <br>
                             > money on gear until they are sure that
                          their child is actually going    <br>
                             > to stick with it.  I’ve suited up many
                          a child over the years who,    <br>
                             > after one practice, decided they would
                          rather do fencing or archery.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > Accumulating gear is a slow process,
                          my stash is about 12 years in the    <br>
                             > making.  I started by asking for
                          donations of old sports gear.  I got    <br>
                             > more roller-blading elbow and knee
                          pads than I needed initially.      <br>
                             > Hawkland Moor authorized me to spend
                          up to $75 which I used to buy    <br>
                             > hockey helmets at Play-it-Again
                          Sports.  I’ve also hit garage sales    <br>
                             > and flea markets for most of the rest.
                           The only armor that isn’t    <br>
                             > commercially available are gorgets,
                          but I’ll bet that some of your    <br>
                             > local fighters have scrap leather and
                          barrel plastic lying around and    <br>
                             > could throw together a few.  Someone
                          from Cynnabar would need to step    <br>
                             > up and be the point person for the
                          program.  This should be a youth    <br>
                             > marshal with a background check (you
                          need one of those present    <br>
                             > anyway).  Assistance can then come
                          from parents, fighters, and other    <br>
                             > adults.  Remember, you don’t have to
                          be a warranted youth marshal to    <br>
                             > work with the kids, just to “spar”
                          with them.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > What can I do to help you get started?
                           Would you like me to attend    <br>
                             > one of your baronial meetings to
                          discuss this with the group?  I would    <br>
                             > also be willing to attend one of your
                          practices and bring my loaner    <br>
                             > gear, although I can’t make a regular
                          practice of this.  Boy scout    <br>
                             > demos can be a fertile recruiting
                          field.  Over the last few years I’ve    <br>
                             > had several families get started in
                          SCA because the kids were    <br>
                             > introduced to youth combat either at
                          demos or by friends in the SCA.      <br>
                             > Little known fact: most of the kids in
                          youth combat do not have a    <br>
                             > parent who fights.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > I will be teaching a class at 12th
                          Night in January for parents and    <br>
                             > kids who are interested in learning
                          about the program.  As part of    <br>
                             > that class I am working on a set of
                          hand-outs on how to find or make    <br>
                             > youth combat gear.  I plan to post
                          these on-line eventually.   <br>
                             >   <br>
                             > At the very least, lets keep talking.
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                             > Middle Kingdom Deputy Earl Marshal   <br>
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                             >   <br>
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