[Cynnabar] Meeting minutes 1/17/2011 and officer reports

[Greg Less]

In general, I think that the take home message that we are getting at is
that we, as established fighters, need to be better stewards to our new
people interested in joining us on the field. We need to get them out on the
field, train them and help them through the often perilous process of buying
the right equipment when the time comes. I am all about this.

For everyone's information:

Rattan staves are available from Icefalcon's website, shipped:

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon/premium-factory-straightened-rattan-ff80808117344aab011752db68fa016f-c.html
Rattan staves are available from Master Eirik. I believe that he is willing
to ship, though I am not certain:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Munitions-Grade-Arms/117157058298448?v=wall#!/pages/Munitions-Grade-Arms/117157058298448?v=wall

Cheers,
-Gregoire.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, <randyasplund at comcast.net> wrote:

>  I totally agree regarding the spears.
>
> Regarding the staves, the problem with that "availability" is that if they
> want it from Icefalcon, they are waiting until Pennsic. Yeah, sometimes you
> can find a Midrealm merchant like Master Erik at a big event like Val Day,
> but that's a crap shoot. Otherwise a full stave of rattan is not a good
> option in the mail. And while a local member "can" offer up some extra
> rattan -if they have it-, that puts them in a position of needing to get
> more themself at some point, so it is an an occasional help, but not an
> overall win or guarantee.
>
> Regarding basket hilts, I echoed your concern that t is available to people
> easy enough via the mail, but others in the meeting pointed out that a
> newbie won't know a good one from a bad one. While I agree with that, I feel
> that we have enough people here to make a recommendation and they could
> still purchase their own basket without us having to do so.
>
> Bottom line, I still think the difficulty f coming up with a stave of
> rattan makes it worth getting that, but I agree wth you that we don't need
> the other stuff.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Less" <greg.less at gmail.com>
>  To: randyasplund at comcast.net
> Cc: barony at cynnabar.org, "Bjarki Bjornson" <docdtw at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:50:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] Meeting minutes 1/17/2011 and officer reports
>
> Thanks for the explanation Sir Ranthulfr.
>
> I don't think that the Barony should be in the rattan sword business. New
> people who are interested in acquiring rattan and a basket hilt need only
> search the web for any of a number of reputable merchants who will sell them
> both. Icefalcon comes immediately to mind. Alternatively, most established
> fighters that I know have a hoard of rattan sitting around somewhere that
> they could sell a length off of. The basket/cup hilt can again be ordered
> through the internet, bought used on Ebay, traded for on the Armour Archive
> or found at an event.
>
> As for the spears - I believe that it makes more sense for the barony to
> determine if we have any fencers who are interested in crossing over, then
> find them an extra spear to train with, then help them buy their own than to
> spend money on a number of spears which will sit around and take up space in
> some volunteers garage/basement/etc.
>
> -Gregoire.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:40 AM, <randyasplund at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Gregoire,
>>
>> To answer your question, the business about the spears came up because of
>> a discussion about the royal encouragement for fighters of either light or
>> heavy weapons to learn to cross over to do both at Pennsic. Spear is the way
>> they envision light weapons fighters transitioning to heavy. So it was
>> proposed that the barony buy a few ready made spears for such candidates to
>> work with. It was also mentioned that these would need to be stored, and
>> that they would only be useful at warm weather practice. Although these
>> aspects are important factors, the rational for supporting the purchase was
>> that we already buy loaner gear that we think we need.
>>
>> At this point I suggested that if we really want to help new fighters, why
>> not purchase some staves of rattan that would be used as stock? Our new
>> fighters would then purchase a cut from the stave at a rate pro-rated by the
>> portion of the stave they wanted. Sgt. Bjarki then commented that if we were
>> going to do that, we ought to also buy some inexpensive basket hilts and
>> sell those at cost to the new fighter. The rational for this whole thing is
>> that rattan and basket hilts  are hard enough to come by for a newbie that
>> it usually takes them quite a while to get these things together. If we
>> helped make them more available, then we would get people fighting sooner.
>>
>> They would still need to deal with helms, the other really difficult thing
>> to acquire when one is new, but we learn to walk one step at a time.
>>
>> RanthulfR
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Greg Less" <greg.less at gmail.com>
>> To: "Bjarki Bjornson" <docdtw at gmail.com>
>> Cc: barony at cynnabar.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 9:04:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] Meeting minutes 1/17/2011 and officer reports
>>
>>
>>
>>    Armored Marshall
>>>    not in attendence
>>>
>>
>>     Sorry about that. I am sick. Again...
>>
>>     Just started the job as interim GKM. Nothing to report.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  We should look to purchase items for the Barony
>>>  spears, rattan, basket hilts
>>>    Straum will get rattan and basket numbers together.
>>>
>>
>>      May I ask for more information about this? What will the basket hilts
>> and rattan be used for? We have two loaner swords that appear to be in good
>> repair with functioning Baldar cuphilts. I am concerned about having loaner
>> spears - these are difficult to transport and are not necessary for basic
>> authorization. In my opinion authorizations beyond sword and shield should
>> be the responsibility of the combatant looking to achieve said
>> authorization...
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Gregoire.
>>
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