[Cynnabar] Generalist Events vs. Niche Events or Opening the Can of Worms

Greg Less greg.less at gmail.com
Thu Sep 15 17:52:06 UTC 2011


Hi Drache-

   I see what you are saying, but in my mind, and I would hope others' too,
the SCA and Cynnabar are "my gig" not just fighting.

Thanks,
-Gregoire.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Alexander Drache <alexanderdrache at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I guess the part that strikes me about specific events like Terp is,
> normally I wouldn't attend.  I might show up for a few hours to help out the
> barony, but when my shift is over I will go home.  By not making me pay to
> volunteer, no one is losing money, because if I had not come to work, I
> wouldn't have come at all.  When the tables are turned, and we hold grand
> tourney, I will happily pay to marshal most of the day, and would be
> thrilled to have non fighters help out with troll and food, and I don't
> expect them to pay to come to an event that is not their gig if they are
> only coming to help out.  So I guess my point is if the only reason you are
> coming to the event is to help out your group, that is the only time (other
> than royalty) I can see not making someone pay.
>
> That said, when I go teach at a rapier specific event, I am happy to pay my
> site fee.  I travel a lot, and at this point, I spend a lot of my time
> teaching, and I often drive 6 hours each way multiple times per month to do
> it.  That is what we do in the SCA.  So I don't see a point in comping
> teachers, that is why you are there, and that is how our social contract in
> the SCA works, we don't charge for our knowledge.
>
> It does however get hard to determine who is only there to volunteer, so
> just charge everyone.  The minute you make exceptions for one group, you
> alienate everyone else.  And yes, that means make me pay to come work troll
> for 4 hours.  That is the game we play.
>
> Drache
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Charlotte Mayhew <crmayhew at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>>  I’m afraid your analogy (the host pays for the party) suggests that
>> Cynnabar should pay for the event and not charge attendees anything at all.
>>  They could bring hostess gifts, as people do at parties.
>>
>> The Barony would quickly run out of funds to host events if events were
>> run like house parties.  So that model doesn’t work.
>>
>> There’s got to be a happy medium.
>>
>> --Sunnifa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/15/11 12:54 PM, "Randy Asplund" <randyasplund at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:30 AM, dirk wrote:
>>
>> To sum up, I think we should comp volunteers at our niche events.
>>
>>
>> I disagree, but if you want to comp people, build it into the event
>> budget proposal.
>>
>> - dirk
>>
>>
>> It sounds really logical at first, but in so doing one must recognize that
>> in effect it means we would be inflating the gate price for our guests and
>> not paying to host our own party.
>>
>> It seems backwards to me. I wouldn't throw a mundane holiday party or
>> birthday party and then expect my guests to pay for it instead of me. The
>> exception would be if I hired a band for entertainment, or if I bought
>> fireworks or something like that. Then I would ask the guests to be ready to
>> chip in.
>>
>> I hope the analogy makes the point. If folks don't agree that it is a
>> concern, then I'm fine with what the group wants to do. But I do point out
>> that to not follow what I am saying here would be a departure from our SCA
>> cultural norm, a least in our kingdom.
>>
>> RanthulfR
>>
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