[Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion

Tue Feb 7 16:57:43 UTC 2012

Thanks for clarifying. In the words of Douglas Adams, "Don't panic."

Johannes

On 2/7/2012 11:50 AM, Hannah Schreiber wrote:
> As Finn says, there are many many emails floating around on Exchequer, 
> Seneschal and the Landed Baron/Baroness lists...
>
> Know that as your servants we are doing our best to keep you all 
> informed of what is transpiring in as timely manner as possible.
>
> Hannah
>
>
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> *From:* Dennis Higgins <mortisfan at comcast.net>
> *To:* barony at cynnabar.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
>
> Johannes,
> There has been further discussions and dissemination of information 
> thru normal chain of commands (i.e. Kingdom officer to regional 
> officer to barony, etc.). We have been given the deadline of this 
> weekend by Kingdom.
> -Finn
> *From:*barony-bounces at cynnabar.org 
> [mailto:barony-bounces at cynnabar.org] *On Behalf Of *John Wilkerson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:43 AM
> *To:* barony at cynnabar.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
> I'm confused. The announcement I read from their Majesties indicated 
> that kingdom is still exploring fund raising options and have not yet 
> requested groups to donate funds, nor has a deadline been announced. 
> Perhaps I misread the announcement. I would suggest proceeding 
> cautiously and awaiting further word from kingdom.
>
> Our Seneschal has raised some excellent points for discussion.
>
> In any event, I think the Baronial dunk tank should proceed. Perhaps 
> at the spring revel. :)
>
> Johannes
>
>
> On 2/7/2012 11:30 AM, Randy Asplund wrote:
> To make a fair decision in the amount of time given, it sounds like 
> the only manageable way without a meeting before the deadline is to 
> have someone make up a poll and ask the members for a vote via the 
> poll. It should explain exactly what the money will be used for and 
> under what circumstances it may be paid back. If we don't do at least 
> that much, then it is a financial decision affecting all but being 
> made by a few.
> We've been blind-sided by this with no time to meet and make an 
> informed decision. That is "unfortunate," but this is what we've been 
> given, so let's deal with it with as much foresight and fairness as 
> possible in the amount of time given. I would suggest that if we 
> cannot do this, then the default should be to comply only with what 
> has been asked for. If we need to build the SCA with more money 
> afterwards, then we can still decide to add more funds after we know 
> more about what they will be used for.
> RanthulfR
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Cynnabar Seneschal wrote:
>
>
> Greetings unto the members of Cynnabar.
> As I'm sure most, if not all, of you are aware, there has been a 
> settlement of the lawsuit against the SCA finally. In the end, in 
> order to meet with the settlement, the SCA Inc. is requiring all 
> Kingdoms to contribute 18% of their cash assets. This goes down to the 
> individual group (shire, barony) level. So Cynnabar must contribute 
> 18% of our cash assets to Kingdom which will contribute it to the 
> Society level. This must be done by this weekend (2/11/12) and we will 
> be planning on handing a check at Val Day directly to the Kingdom 
> Exchequer.
> As far as what is our cash assets, it is only our checking account 
> that falls into that category, so it makes calculations easy (we have 
> no CDs or any other liquid assets to worry about). Now, here comes the 
> fun part...
> The 18% calculation is based on the 2010 Doomsday. Our 12/31/2010 
> balance is $1840.36 which 18% is $331.26.
> However our 2011 balance as of 12/31/2011 is $6447.15, which 18% is 
> $1160.49
> So our required obligation is only $331.26.
> First, the question of should Cynnabar contribute more to help the 
> Kingdom and SCA in this settlement case?  There are some things to 
> keep in mind when considering this:
> -This is a (hopefully) one time situation and the decision must be 
> made before this weekend. We do not have any meetings before hand so 
> all discussions will be done on-line or in individual phone calls.
> -We have already budgeted $600 to Kingdom (for the shade fly and 
> travel funds). This was done before the settlement announcement. So we 
> are already have funds earmarked for Kingdom.
> -If we contribute more than the 18%, how much more should we?
> Second, some individuals have also expressed interest in contributing 
> to the settlement funds. There is an investigation going on right now 
> as the best way to make that happen. As soon as there is more 
> information on how this can happen, we'll let people know.
> I feel that we should try to keep these transactions as simple as 
> possible. Therefore I suggest that:
> 1.We determine what amount we will contribute to the settlement by 
> this weekend and that's what we send as far as monies that go directly 
> to the settlement.
> 2.Individual contributions to the settlement should be made directly 
> to Kingdom/SCA (method TBD).
> 3.Any fundraisers or means to replenish the funds will be done as 
> "normal" Baronial fundraisers and not tied into the settlement. We can 
> always know why we are doing the fundraiser, but it keeps the records 
> and financial books a lot cleaner. We can always tithe these monies 
> directly to the Kingdom later to help replenish our Kingdom's coffers.
> I think that if we follow the above three guidelines, it will keep 
> things clean and straightforward.
> Now, onto the big discussion. How much should we contribute to the 
> settlement? The base 18% of our 2010 numbers ($331.26), or more?
> In my opinion, I feel if we contribute the 18% of our 2011 budget 
> ($1160.49), it is more accurate to what the Barony can support to 
> Kingdom and gives more than what is minimally required.
> I know that there are some that will feel that we should only give the 
> required amount and others that feel we should help out as much as we 
> can. There will not be 100% agreement on this. But I'm hoping that the 
> clear majority of people will let it be known how the Barony should 
> help out.
> All feedback is needed and appreciated. If you feel like you need to 
> express your opinion in person rather than to the group list, feel 
> free to e-mail or call me (before 10:PM) at any time at 610-564-2249.
> For more details on the lawsuit, the settlement, and the financial 
> impact this has had on the SCA, please 
> see:http://sca.org/BOD/announcements/settlement.html
> Thanks,
> Finn
> Seneschal, Cynnabar
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