[Cynnabar] Cynnabar contributing more than 18%

Tue Feb 7 17:33:13 UTC 2012

Good Gentles All,I also feel that this barony should be inspired to contribute more than the minimal amount requested to settle this lawsuit - especially considering the joy and comfort we all receive from the Society.  I feel contributions should be made quickly due to the shortness of time we have to raise the money.  I also feel individuals should have the chance to make contributions.  Considering that the financial resources of individuals within the barony varies greatly, I suggest that for the moment we instruct the exchequer of the barony to round up our payment to the nearest $2000.  Then we can take a free will donation (pass the hat) and individuals can contribute personally as much as they feel able.  The hat can be passed at all barony sponsored activities on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday; deposited on Friday and added to the baronial contribution on Saturday.  Perhaps the dunk tank could be set up at Crown so that all the populace could participate?

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> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:15:31 -0500
> From: "Cynnabar Seneschal" <boc.seneschal at gmail.com>
> To: <barony at cynnabar.org>
> Subject: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
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> Greetings unto the members of Cynnabar.
> 
>  
> 
> As I'm sure most, if not all, of you are aware, there has been a settlement
> of the lawsuit against the SCA finally. In the end, in order to meet with
> the settlement, the SCA Inc. is requiring all Kingdoms to contribute 18% of
> their cash assets. This goes down to the individual group (shire, barony)
> level. So Cynnabar must contribute 18% of our cash assets to Kingdom which
> will contribute it to the Society level. This must be done by this weekend
> (2/11/12) and we will be planning on handing a check at Val Day directly to
> the Kingdom Exchequer. 
> 
>  
> 
> As far as what is our cash assets, it is only our checking account that
> falls into that category, so it makes calculations easy (we have no CDs or
> any other liquid assets to worry about). Now, here comes the fun part.
> 
>  
> 
> The 18% calculation is based on the 2010 Doomsday. Our 12/31/2010 balance is
> $1840.36 which 18% is $331.26. 
> 
> However our 2011 balance as of 12/31/2011 is $6447.15, which 18% is $1160.49
> 
> So our required obligation is only $331.26. 
> 
>  
> 
> First, the question of should Cynnabar contribute more to help the Kingdom
> and SCA in this settlement case?  There are some things to keep in mind when
> considering this:
> 
> -          This is a (hopefully) one time situation and the decision must be
> made before this weekend. We do not have any meetings before hand so all
> discussions will be done on-line or in individual phone calls.
> 
> -          We have already budgeted $600 to Kingdom (for the shade fly and
> travel funds). This was done before the settlement announcement. So we are
> already have funds earmarked for Kingdom.
> 
> -          If we contribute more than the 18%, how much more should we?
> 
>  
> 
> Second, some individuals have also expressed interest in contributing to the
> settlement funds. There is an investigation going on right now as the best
> way to make that happen. As soon as there is more information on how this
> can happen, we'll let people know.
> 
>  
> 
> I feel that we should try to keep these transactions as simple as possible.
> Therefore I suggest that:
> 
> 1.       We determine what amount we will contribute to the settlement by
> this weekend and that's what we send as far as monies that go directly to
> the settlement.
> 
> 2.       Individual contributions to the settlement should be made directly
> to Kingdom/SCA (method TBD).
> 
> 3.       Any fundraisers or means to replenish the funds will be done as
> "normal" Baronial fundraisers and not tied into the settlement. We can
> always know why we are doing the fundraiser, but it keeps the records and
> financial books a lot cleaner. We can always tithe these monies directly to
> the Kingdom later to help replenish our Kingdom's coffers. 
> 
>  
> 
> I think that if we follow the above three guidelines, it will keep things
> clean and straightforward.
> 
>  
> 
> Now, onto the big discussion. How much should we contribute to the
> settlement? The base 18% of our 2010 numbers ($331.26), or more?
> 
>  
> 
> In my opinion, I feel if we contribute the 18% of our 2011 budget
> ($1160.49), it is more accurate to what the Barony can support to Kingdom
> and gives more than what is minimally required. 
> 
>  
> 
> I know that there are some that will feel that we should only give the
> required amount and others that feel we should help out as much as we can.
> There will not be 100% agreement on this. But I'm hoping that the clear
> majority of people will let it be known how the Barony should help out.
> 
>  
> 
> All feedback is needed and appreciated. If you feel like you need to express
> your opinion in person rather than to the group list, feel free to e-mail or
> call me (before 10:PM) at any time at 610-564-2249.
> 
>  
> 
> For more details on the lawsuit, the settlement, and the financial impact
> this has had on the SCA, please see:
> http://sca.org/BOD/announcements/settlement.html
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Finn
> 
> Seneschal, Cynnabar
> 
>  
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> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:26:44 -0500
> From: Jennifer Lyn <jenniferlynangel at gmail.com>
> To: Cynnabar Seneschal <boc.seneschal at gmail.com>
> Cc: barony at cynnabar.org
> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
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> Thank you very much for the well-thought out message regarding our
> contribution to settle the lawsuit.
> 
> In my opinion, I feel we should contribute the 18% of our 2011 budget
> ($1160.49), as it is indeed more accurate to what the Barony can support to
> Kingdom. It is both more than what is expected, and less than going beyond
> the stated 18%, which I feel satisfies both camps. I also feel it is
> generous and fair. :)
> 
> -- 
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> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:30:58 -0500
> From: Randy Asplund <randyasplund at comcast.net>
> To: Barony of Cynnabar <barony at cynnabar.org>
> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
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> To make a fair decision in the amount of time given, it sounds like  
> the only manageable way without a meeting before the deadline is to  
> have someone make up a poll and ask the members for a vote via the  
> poll. It should explain exactly what the money will be used for and  
> under what circumstances it may be paid back. If we don't do at least  
> that much, then it is a financial decision affecting all but being  
> made by a few.
> 
> We've been blind-sided by this with no time to meet and make an  
> informed decision. That is "unfortunate," but this is what we've been  
> given, so let's deal with it with as much foresight and fairness as  
> possible in the amount of time given. I would suggest that if we  
> cannot do this, then the default should be to comply only with what  
> has been asked for. If we need to build the SCA with more money  
> afterwards, then we can still decide to add more funds after we know  
> more about what they will be used for.
> 
> RanthulfR
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Cynnabar Seneschal wrote:
> 
> > Greetings unto the members of Cynnabar.
> >
> > As I?m sure most, if not all, of you are aware, there has been a  
> > settlement of the lawsuit against the SCA finally. In the end, in  
> > order to meet with the settlement, the SCA Inc. is requiring all  
> > Kingdoms to contribute 18% of their cash assets. This goes down to  
> > the individual group (shire, barony) level. So Cynnabar must  
> > contribute 18% of our cash assets to Kingdom which will contribute  
> > it to the Society level. This must be done by this weekend (2/11/12)  
> > and we will be planning on handing a check at Val Day directly to  
> > the Kingdom Exchequer.
> >
> > As far as what is our cash assets, it is only our checking account  
> > that falls into that category, so it makes calculations easy (we  
> > have no CDs or any other liquid assets to worry about). Now, here  
> > comes the fun part?
> >
> > The 18% calculation is based on the 2010 Doomsday. Our 12/31/2010  
> > balance is $1840.36 which 18% is $331.26.
> > However our 2011 balance as of 12/31/2011 is $6447.15, which 18% is  
> > $1160.49
> > So our required obligation is only $331.26.
> >
> > First, the question of should Cynnabar contribute more to help the  
> > Kingdom and SCA in this settlement case?  There are some things to  
> > keep in mind when considering this:
> > -          This is a (hopefully) one time situation and the decision  
> > must be made before this weekend. We do not have any meetings before  
> > hand so all discussions will be done on-line or in individual phone  
> > calls.
> > -          We have already budgeted $600 to Kingdom (for the shade  
> > fly and travel funds). This was done before the settlement  
> > announcement. So we are already have funds earmarked for Kingdom.
> > -          If we contribute more than the 18%, how much more should  
> > we?
> >
> > Second, some individuals have also expressed interest in  
> > contributing to the settlement funds. There is an investigation  
> > going on right now as the best way to make that happen. As soon as  
> > there is more information on how this can happen, we?ll let people  
> > know.
> >
> > I feel that we should try to keep these transactions as simple as  
> > possible. Therefore I suggest that:
> > 1.       We determine what amount we will contribute to the  
> > settlement by this weekend and that?s what we send as far as monies  
> > that go directly to the settlement.
> > 2.       Individual contributions to the settlement should be made  
> > directly to Kingdom/SCA (method TBD).
> > 3.       Any fundraisers or means to replenish the funds will be  
> > done as ?normal? Baronial fundraisers and not tied into the  
> > settlement. We can always know why we are doing the fundraiser, but  
> > it keeps the records and financial books a lot cleaner. We can  
> > always tithe these monies directly to the Kingdom later to help  
> > replenish our Kingdom?s coffers.
> >
> > I think that if we follow the above three guidelines, it will keep  
> > things clean and straightforward.
> >
> > Now, onto the big discussion. How much should we contribute to the  
> > settlement? The base 18% of our 2010 numbers ($331.26), or more?
> >
> > In my opinion, I feel if we contribute the 18% of our 2011 budget  
> > ($1160.49), it is more accurate to what the Barony can support to  
> > Kingdom and gives more than what is minimally required.
> >
> > I know that there are some that will feel that we should only give  
> > the required amount and others that feel we should help out as much  
> > as we can. There will not be 100% agreement on this. But I?m hoping  
> > that the clear majority of people will let it be known how the  
> > Barony should help out.
> >
> > All feedback is needed and appreciated. If you feel like you need to  
> > express your opinion in person rather than to the group list, feel  
> > free to e-mail or call me (before 10:PM) at any time at 610-564-2249.
> >
> > For more details on the lawsuit, the settlement, and the financial  
> > impact this has had on the SCA, please see:http://sca.org/BOD/announcements/settlement.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Finn
> > Seneschal, Cynnabar
> >
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