[Cynnabar] How much more can we give?

[Monique Rio]

I'm looking forward to getting more official information.

Also, I agree that hard numbers aren't needed right now, but before
Saturday I would like at least some kind of ball-park estimate of how
much we could reasonably expect to give to other groups in the coming
months. Basically, if giving $1200 on Saturday means we can only give
$20 to other groups, we might want to rethink the $1200 amount.

-Jadzia

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Dennis Higgins <mortisfan at comcast.net> wrote:
> First, I like the idea of letting Kingdom know that after the settlement is
> dealt with that Cynnabar would be willing to help out other groups who may
> have hard times financially (like having enough up-front funds to put on an
> event). That will also give us time and ability to determine how much we are
> willing to help out with for other groups in need. What's that number? I
> don't know. But I also don't think we need to determine that right now
> either other than to say what the group agrees upon without hindering our
> own financial picture.
>
> Second, we should be getting some more "official" information soon. As soon
> as we have it, it will be passed on. I don't know the nature of the
> statement yet, so anything at this point would just be speculation.
>
> -Finn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: barony-bounces at cynnabar.org [mailto:barony-bounces at cynnabar.org] On
> Behalf Of Monique Rio
> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 1:20 PM
> To: Cynnabar
> Subject: [Cynnabar] How much more can we give?
>
> Since no one has responded to my post burried at the end of the very
> long thread, I'm bumping it up to it's own post, with some edits.
>
> 1) From Tairdelbach:
> "We have already been informed that the kingdom funds will be
> virtually depleted and a number of projects will be placed on hold. We
> can request that excess funds be directed to the kingdom coffers and
> will be of immediate assistance to the Royals and others. The benefit
> to giving now may mean that the Royals will get to travel to events in
> the next couple months, or that Kingdom can pay other outstanding
> costs unrelated to the lawsuit."
>
> 2) Since we do have the funds to give now, and since we have been
> given a bit more information (Thank you, Your Excellency!) I think we
> should give something to Kingdom above and beyond the minimum required
> at Val Day. It would help smooth things over and we can afford it.
>
> 2.5) I also want to make sure that we have sufficient money available
> to directly help groups in the opposite position that we're in. No
> where in His Excellency's statement does it say that we can direct
> money to cover the costs for the groups who need it. Once that money
> has been given to Kingdom we no longer have control over it.
>
> I like Adele's suggestion of asking the Kingdom Seneschal to let us
> know who needs help. Given the information Kingdom has on the
> individual groups, someone up there should be able to figure this out.
> I think it's worth our time to do this.
>
> So, the question I have is this, if we give $1200 to Kingdom on
> Saturday, will we as a group still feel comfortable giving more ($600?
> another $1200?) in a month or two to less fortunate groups if the need
> arises? This is at least as important to me as ensuring that the
> Royals can travel.
>
> And I'd rather not have to rely on fundraisers for this particular
> cause. In addition to the Barony's money, sure, but I'd like to see
> the Barony directly stepping in to help other groups in need. I get
> the feeling that by the time this problem sees the light of day other
> groups will be unable to step up to the plate because they've given
> all they can give directly to Kingdom on Saturday. Urgency is a hard
> thing to stand up to.
>
> I also fully admit that it's more than possible that Kingdom is
> planning to eat the costs of groups who would otherwise fold. But we
> haven't been told.
>
> -Jadzia
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