[Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion

Tue Feb 7 17:39:36 UTC 2012

I'd like to see us give the minimum required amount this weekend. It
sounds like if everyone gives the 18%, then everything will be
settled. For anything beyond the minimum, I think we should go through
the normal discussion -- ideally, I would hope we could assist other
groups for whom the 18% limits their ability to fund current
obligations and/or have enough seed money to run events.

-a

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:57 AM, John Wilkerson <jmw at wilkersons.ws> wrote:
> Thanks for clarifying. In the words of Douglas Adams, "Don't panic."
>
> Johannes
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> On 2/7/2012 11:50 AM, Hannah Schreiber wrote:
>
> As Finn says, there are many many emails floating around on Exchequer,
> Seneschal and the Landed Baron/Baroness lists...
>
> Know that as your servants we are doing our best to keep you all informed of
> what is transpiring in as timely manner as possible.
>
> Hannah
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> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Higgins <mortisfan at comcast.net>
> To: barony at cynnabar.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
>
> Johannes,
>
> There has been further discussions and dissemination of information thru
> normal chain of commands (i.e. Kingdom officer to regional officer to
> barony, etc.). We have been given the deadline of this weekend by Kingdom.
>
> -Finn
>
> From: barony-bounces at cynnabar.org [mailto:barony-bounces at cynnabar.org] On
> Behalf Of John Wilkerson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 11:43 AM
> To: barony at cynnabar.org
> Subject: Re: [Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion
>
> I'm confused. The announcement I read from their Majesties indicated that
> kingdom is still exploring fund raising options and have not yet requested
> groups to donate funds, nor has a deadline been announced. Perhaps I misread
> the announcement. I would suggest proceeding cautiously and awaiting further
> word from kingdom.
>
> Our Seneschal has raised some excellent points for discussion.
>
> In any event, I think the Baronial dunk tank should proceed. Perhaps at the
> spring revel. :)
>
> Johannes
>
>
> On 2/7/2012 11:30 AM, Randy Asplund wrote:
> To make a fair decision in the amount of time given, it sounds like the only
> manageable way without a meeting before the deadline is to have someone make
> up a poll and ask the members for a vote via the poll. It should explain
> exactly what the money will be used for and under what circumstances it may
> be paid back. If we don't do at least that much, then it is a financial
> decision affecting all but being made by a few.
>
> We've been blind-sided by this with no time to meet and make an informed
> decision. That is "unfortunate," but this is what we've been given, so let's
> deal with it with as much foresight and fairness as possible in the amount
> of time given. I would suggest that if we cannot do this, then the default
> should be to comply only with what has been asked for. If we need to build
> the SCA with more money afterwards, then we can still decide to add more
> funds after we know more about what they will be used for.
>
> RanthulfR
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>
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Cynnabar Seneschal wrote:
>
>
> Greetings unto the members of Cynnabar.
>
> As I’m sure most, if not all, of you are aware, there has been a settlement
> of the lawsuit against the SCA finally. In the end, in order to meet with
> the settlement, the SCA Inc. is requiring all Kingdoms to contribute 18% of
> their cash assets. This goes down to the individual group (shire, barony)
> level. So Cynnabar must contribute 18% of our cash assets to Kingdom which
> will contribute it to the Society level. This must be done by this weekend
> (2/11/12) and we will be planning on handing a check at Val Day directly to
> the Kingdom Exchequer.
>
> As far as what is our cash assets, it is only our checking account that
> falls into that category, so it makes calculations easy (we have no CDs or
> any other liquid assets to worry about). Now, here comes the fun part…
>
> The 18% calculation is based on the 2010 Doomsday. Our 12/31/2010 balance is
> $1840.36 which 18% is $331.26.
> However our 2011 balance as of 12/31/2011 is $6447.15, which 18% is $1160.49
> So our required obligation is only $331.26.
>
> First, the question of should Cynnabar contribute more to help the Kingdom
> and SCA in this settlement case?  There are some things to keep in mind when
> considering this:
> -          This is a (hopefully) one time situation and the decision must be
> made before this weekend. We do not have any meetings before hand so all
> discussions will be done on-line or in individual phone calls.
> -          We have already budgeted $600 to Kingdom (for the shade fly and
> travel funds). This was done before the settlement announcement. So we are
> already have funds earmarked for Kingdom.
> -          If we contribute more than the 18%, how much more should we?
>
> Second, some individuals have also expressed interest in contributing to the
> settlement funds. There is an investigation going on right now as the best
> way to make that happen. As soon as there is more information on how this
> can happen, we’ll let people know.
>
> I feel that we should try to keep these transactions as simple as possible.
> Therefore I suggest that:
> 1.       We determine what amount we will contribute to the settlement by
> this weekend and that’s what we send as far as monies that go directly to
> the settlement.
> 2.       Individual contributions to the settlement should be made directly
> to Kingdom/SCA (method TBD).
> 3.       Any fundraisers or means to replenish the funds will be done as
> “normal” Baronial fundraisers and not tied into the settlement. We can
> always know why we are doing the fundraiser, but it keeps the records and
> financial books a lot cleaner. We can always tithe these monies directly to
> the Kingdom later to help replenish our Kingdom’s coffers.
>
> I think that if we follow the above three guidelines, it will keep things
> clean and straightforward.
>
> Now, onto the big discussion. How much should we contribute to the
> settlement? The base 18% of our 2010 numbers ($331.26), or more?
>
> In my opinion, I feel if we contribute the 18% of our 2011 budget
> ($1160.49), it is more accurate to what the Barony can support to Kingdom
> and gives more than what is minimally required.
>
> I know that there are some that will feel that we should only give the
> required amount and others that feel we should help out as much as we can.
> There will not be 100% agreement on this. But I’m hoping that the clear
> majority of people will let it be known how the Barony should help out.
>
> All feedback is needed and appreciated. If you feel like you need to express
> your opinion in person rather than to the group list, feel free to e-mail or
> call me (before 10:PM) at any time at 610-564-2249.
>
> For more details on the lawsuit, the settlement, and the financial impact
> this has had on the SCA, please
> see:http://sca.org/BOD/announcements/settlement.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Finn
> Seneschal, Cynnabar
>
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