[Cynnabar] BoC - Settlement funding discussion

[Monique Rio]

Having reread the thread, the question being asked is "Is Cynnabar the
kind of group that gives only the minimum required or is it the kind
of group that gives generously when there is a time of need?"

I think this is the wrong question.

The question should be, "How can we do the most good?"

So far the best reason I've seen for giving more immediately has been
from Midair

 "There will be more legal fees as they try to get the other insurance
companies to pay."

And

"The reason for forgoing the discussion period is because the SCA has to
acquire the funds in 10 days (not sure if that is calendar or work days
... sorry). So more money helps ease the strain on Kingdom when they
have to pay their invoice from Corporate."

and from Finn:

"The Crown has said that those who can give more, may do so."
Indicating that giving above and beyond would be a reasonable thing to
do.

So a few questions,

1) Has kingdom officially asked that groups immediately give above and
beyond if they're capable?
2) How much more value would giving now be over giving in a month?
3) What damage would we be doing by waiting?

The main reason I'd prefer to wait is that I'd like to see where our
surplus money could be best used. We need more information than can be
given over the internet within a week. I'd prefer waiting until the
dust settles a bit.

-Jadzia

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Greg Less <greg.less at gmail.com> wrote:
> The seneschal, Baron, and Baroness of our group have passed along a request
> of our King and Queen.
>
> The King and Queen are responding to a directive from the Society Board of
> Directors.
>
> The Society Board of Directors are responding to a directive from a judge of
> the United States.
>
>
> We are lucky that we are being given the opportunity to discuss this at all.
> Many other groups in the Known World convened an emergency council and
> simply wrote a check without ever talking to the populace. Some of them for
> more than the 18% We are lucky that the Kingdom or even the Society hasn't
> simply stepped in and taken the money from our account, since, in the end,
> the account is an SCA, Inc account, not a Cynnabar account. Ultimately, if
> we don't pay, the court will come in and take our money and possibly our
> non-liquid assets too.
>
>
> Are we discussing whether we should look generous, yeah, of course.
> Perception is reality, particularly in a Society based on the medieval mind
> set where appearance was everything.
>
>
> -Gregoire.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Monique Rio <mrio at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Greg Less <greg.less at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2) We're telling Kingdom and Corporate that it's OK to spring
>> >> mandatory payments without a month's notice. DUDE that's not cool. If
>> >> they'd told us a month in advance we could have, within policy,
>> >> decided as a group to give them more money at the given time.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Actually, we are telling the judge that it is okay to tell us that if we
>> > don't give the victims their settlement money by the deadline he set...
>> >
>>
>> I wouldn't know because we haven't had a meeting to discuss it.
>>
>> I'm not saying we shouldn't give the minimum. I'm not saying we
>> shouldn't give more in the future. I'm saying there's no reason (other
>> than appearances) why we need to give above and beyond before we've
>> gone through due process.
>>
>> -Jadzia
>
>
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