[Cynnabar] A rational approach

Aaron Elkiss aelkiss at umich.edu
Wed Feb 8 14:43:02 UTC 2012


I agree with you completely. By "additional" money I mean anything
over and above the originally requested amount of 18% of our 2010
domesday. If further requirements come from Corporate of course we
must meet those using the emergency process as well.

-a

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:31 AM, dirk <dirkmayhew at comcast.net> wrote:
> The numbers and dates are available for anybody who wants to see them.
> The plan calls for a 10 day turn around time from receipt of invoice.
> Some details can be found here:
> www.sca.org/BOD/announcements/settlementFAQ.doc
>
> I counsel that all groups - not just Cynnabar - do what is required to
> meet the timing.  If that forces a group to bypass their normal
> processes, so be it.
>
> The cash raised will either be:
> a) not enough: I'd expect corporate to ask for more... sounds
> probable... cut a second check if so.
> b) just right.  Unlikely but possible.
> c) too much: I'd expect corporate to bank the excess, because it sounds
> like they're broke.
>
> I prefer to target b):  send the requested amount, rounded up if you
> want, but not a lot of extra.  It is blood money.  All opportunities to
> "do the right thing" - to emulate the ideals of this hobby - expired
> well over a decade ago.
>
> - dirk
>
>
> On Tue, 2012-02-07 at 22:26 -0500, Randy Asplund wrote:
>> Jawiga was absolutely right, and I commend her for having the guts to
>> say it in the face of such a polar reaction.  I hope that other people
>> who feel as she does will be willing to speak up so we can at least
>> represent both sides of the matter fairly.
>>
>>
>> Here's why she's right:
>>
>>
>> 1) The SCA Inc leadership is not stupid. They asked for what they
>> need. They thought about it and told us specifically what they want.
>> Therefore there is no emergency that requires our immediate payment
>> beyond what they asked for and so the emergency policy for a decision
>> is not appropriate. It is hard to make a case for there being a need
>> to decide right now how much extra to give or who it should be given
>> to. As long as the SCA meets the required need, the excess is not time
>> critical.
>>
>>
>> 2) The whole point of taking time to decide is so that here is time to
>> actually sort it out and get the word with ACCURATE facts to people.
>> But what you folks are demanding is that we go on minimal information
>> that includes a very poor understanding of the situation since all of
>> the facts have not even been produced yet. We may indeed decide later
>> that it is a good and right thing to contribute the excess amount to
>> someone, but we deserve a chance to figure that out without being
>> caught up in a rushed panic and pushed into it. And that is what is
>> happening, action without looking squarely at all of the facts.
>>
>>
>> 3) There is nothing that says we can't give deeply from our pockets in
>> 3 weeks, and the delay won't cause one bit of a problem for the SCA if
>> you believe #1 above to be true -that the SCA isn't stupid and has
>> asked for what it actually needs.
>>
>>
>> 4) The worst excuse I can think of for doing this now is "because
>> other groups are doing it now." Geeze, do we want to be rational or do
>> we want to join the lemming conga line because our egos need us to
>> keep up with the Jones? If the SCA or the Middle Kingdom wants more
>> money or needs more money after this weekend it will become known at
>> that time., We can still be just as generous in 3 weeks as now, but we
>> will be making an informed and thoughtful decision based on facts, not
>> what some panicked guessing produced. I would rather be appreciated
>> for being wise and generous when it counts than seen as foolish for
>> blindly committing to a path I didn't fully understand.
>>
>>
>> RanthulfR
>>
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