[Cynnabar] Meeting Location

Sat Aug 15 14:02:20 UTC 2015

Cynnabarians,

First, all my nights and days are magical for that matter!!

I think this is a little premature for someone to be taking the reigns on
this and reserving rooms.  What about the people who don't get email?
Shouldn't they have a chance to voice their opinion??  Does this fall under
the 3 meeting rule? I thought we had to put this to a vote?  We still have
a couple more meetings at the Classic Cup Cafe where we can discuss this
face to face.  I can guarantee that Uillec will not troll through 30 or 40
emails to read all of this, and I am sure he is not alone.

Just my thoughts, I will not plan to attend any meetings in downtown Ann
Arbor or on the U of M campus other than for officer reports unless my
service in immediately required. The parking is terrible and for those of
you who say "just park at____ and walk", is there handicap parking readily
available?  Fight practice at the Union is a different story because it
happens on a Sunday afternoon.

I for one like the option of having "food/pie" available because I don't
get out of work until 6pm or later and don't get a chance to eat.

Your Exchequer,
Ilse Strauss

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Monique Rio via Barony <barony at cynnabar.org
> wrote:

> For what it's worth, I saw that at the Jo Ann's on Carpenter road, they
> apparently let community groups use their classroom area for meetings. I
> don't know if it's available on Mondays or if it's free, but probably worth
> looking into. And as far as places to be pressured to buy something, in
> this crowd it's probably as annoying as Borders.
>
> -Jadzia
>
> P.S. I'd also be thrilled with Pierpont. I was one of those 5 or 6 people
> who came to the meetings at the league. :P
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Matt Lagemann via Barony <
> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>
>> Just three.  :)
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Hattie Knapp <heknapp42 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I just reserved the boulevard room for the 14th and 21st, the 28th
>>> is unavailable everywhere because of the career fair. I've been put in
>>> contact with somebody who can help me do a mass reservation tomorrow, when
>>> everything else should be reserved no problem.
>>> There are 5 Mondays in November, are we just doing 3 meetings or all 4?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Johannes Robbertszoon <
>>> johannesrobbertszoon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I started attending meetings, we met twice a month in the league.
>>>> One week at the Corner Brewery and one week was Heralds Night. I do hate
>>>> parking downtown by the league.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On August 12, 2015 4:54:29 PM EDT, Matt Lagemann via Barony <
>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We hold meetings the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th Mondays.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Hattie Knapp <heknapp42 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As long as we cancel a week before there shouldn't be any penalties.
>>>>>> Just so I'm clear, second Monday of every month from 7-9 pm is when
>>>>>> we need the rooms, yes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Matt Lagemann <malagemann at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the penalty for cancelling?  If we reserve these rooms now
>>>>>>> to ensure we have them and then the group decides this is not the place we
>>>>>>> want to meet, are we OK to cancel them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ermenrich
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Kell Carnahan via Barony <
>>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hattie:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I assume the group needs to come to an agreement that Pierpont
>>>>>>>> Commons sounds like a place to go, which I imagine would happen either this
>>>>>>>> week by email or next week at Monday's meeting.  Perhaps just check out
>>>>>>>> availability of the rooms for now, on Mondays from 7-9 pm, to see when it's
>>>>>>>> possible to start meetings there, if people decide we should try it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NC43 is the number of the free evening parking lot closest to
>>>>>>>> Pierpont Commons, not a room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking at the rooms in Pierpont (everyone can look at their specs
>>>>>>>> easily here: http://uunions.umich.edu/pierpont/rooms/639) that are
>>>>>>>> available for student use free of charge and are about the right size:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -* Boulevard Room, North East Room, and South East Room*: all of
>>>>>>>> really nice size for meetings plus activities (~900 sq feet).  All have 10
>>>>>>>> ft ceilings (good for martial demonstrations) and are on the upper floor,
>>>>>>>> so can probably use them interchangeably if Mondays aren't all free at one
>>>>>>>> of them.
>>>>>>>> - *Center Room:* a little smaller (20x29), but still a fine size
>>>>>>>> for meetings
>>>>>>>> - *Corner Room:* 13 x 14: probably too small
>>>>>>>> - *Executive Suite:* not exactly a room, but an alcove... might
>>>>>>>> work okay, though.
>>>>>>>> -* East Room*: costs us money - nope!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I would look into the availability in the Boulevard Room, NE
>>>>>>>> Room, or SE Room (pick one randomly, or ask which one has the most
>>>>>>>> availability on Mondays 7-9 pm).  If none of those are free, check the
>>>>>>>> Center Room.  Then maybe the Executive Suite or Corner Room, but maybe not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, we don't have meetings the first Monday of every month - just
>>>>>>>> the others.  First Monday is Herald's Night.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feel free to chime in if anyone has other ideas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ~Birke
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Hattie Knapp <heknapp42 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So the good news is that we're all set and registered. I'm in the
>>>>>>>>> process of reserving the rooms right now, what date does the Mondays at
>>>>>>>>> 7:00 start? Also do we want the NC43 room in Pierpont, or a different one?
>>>>>>>>> Hattie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kell Carnahan <wyndsung at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> University of Michigan policies (at least, as of last December,
>>>>>>>>>> when I stopped being the person to reserve rooms):  12 rooms per building
>>>>>>>>>> per semester.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We currently use the Michigan Union for the mass meeting and
>>>>>>>>>> fight practices, and the League for dance practices.  Dance practices were
>>>>>>>>>> held in Pierpont Commons, on North Campus, until Pierpont had a ton of
>>>>>>>>>> construction all last summer and we moved it to the League.  I imagine that
>>>>>>>>>> construction was finished last fall.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We could use Pierpont Commons for meeting spaces throughout the
>>>>>>>>>> entire year.  Pierpont Commons, being smaller than the Union and the
>>>>>>>>>> League, only allows clubs to register rooms out as far in advance as the
>>>>>>>>>> clubs are registered (the Union and the League lets us do this over a year
>>>>>>>>>> in advance, which I would do to make sure we got the prime locations we
>>>>>>>>>> wanted).  This just means that Hattie (our current room register person)
>>>>>>>>>> would have to make sure to re-register the student club as early as
>>>>>>>>>> possible during the summer months, so that we could try and get room space
>>>>>>>>>> past September 30 (when student clubs end if they aren't re-registered
>>>>>>>>>> every year).  As long as I did this early enough in the summer, I
>>>>>>>>>> registered dance practice without much problem.  The website where one
>>>>>>>>>> checks room space changed (I just checked), and I can no longer access it
>>>>>>>>>> (it's no longer open to the public, how annoying), so I have no idea if
>>>>>>>>>> there is Monday evening space available starting next month.  But it may be
>>>>>>>>>> a good option going forward in the future, and Hattie could find out what
>>>>>>>>>> availability there is with a quick phone call.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Parking is usually the issue cited when wondering about using
>>>>>>>>>> University rooms.  There is a lot available within a couple blocks walk to
>>>>>>>>>> Pierpont Commons that is only enforced until 5 pm: Lot NC43 on the map (
>>>>>>>>>> http://pts.umich.edu/maps/north_medical.pdf).  Here is the
>>>>>>>>>> website of enforcement, if you're curious about when the other lots are
>>>>>>>>>> enforced: http://pts.umich.edu/parking/enforcement-nc.php.  For
>>>>>>>>>> example, the lot a little closer to Pierpont, NC27, is enforced until 8 pm
>>>>>>>>>> and wouldn't suit our purposes.  NC43 is a pretty short walk, though, and
>>>>>>>>>> it would mean a meeting place that fits most other criteria listed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    - *Availability on Monday evenings from 7:00-9:00 pm*: might
>>>>>>>>>>    not be available this semester (if already booked), but could be arranged
>>>>>>>>>>    for future semesters.  Hattie needs to call and ask.  The semester hasn't
>>>>>>>>>>    started, so maybe there's space for us still.
>>>>>>>>>>    - *Space for up to 25 people to sit together*: Yes
>>>>>>>>>>    - *No charge (or low cost) for us to use*: Yes - as long as
>>>>>>>>>>    we keep the student club going, which is why Festifall (and Northfest...
>>>>>>>>>>    aren't we also doing Northfest???) is so important!
>>>>>>>>>>    - *Quiet atmosphere where everyone can hear:* Yes
>>>>>>>>>>    - *Convenient parking:* Fairly close by for free
>>>>>>>>>>    - *Central location in Cynnabar:* Yes
>>>>>>>>>>    - *Food and drink (for those who otherwise don't have a
>>>>>>>>>>    chance to eat after work):* No.  Or, at least, not openly.
>>>>>>>>>>    We're officially not allowed to bring in outside food and drink, because
>>>>>>>>>>    the University likes to make people use their catering, which costs money.
>>>>>>>>>>    - *No pressure on anyone to spend money:* Yes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I support going back to meeting on campus, as soon as we can get
>>>>>>>>>> the room space available.  It's nice not to have the pressure to spend
>>>>>>>>>> money, and being on campus means we have more flexibility with the room
>>>>>>>>>> space to hold workshops and whatnot that don't fit well in a restaurant.
>>>>>>>>>> It's also quiet.  But I also don't go to many meetings myself, so others'
>>>>>>>>>> opinions should probably hold more weight than my own.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hattie just emailed me a couple days ago that she was
>>>>>>>>>> re-registering the club, which I imagine went smoothly (it's not hard, as
>>>>>>>>>> long as you have the 10 students and 3 authorized signers already
>>>>>>>>>> confirmed).  She'll have to make a phone call about current Monday evening
>>>>>>>>>> availability of rooms, and/or log into the online system to find that out.
>>>>>>>>>>  (Hattie: Here's the website with contact info and room info about
>>>>>>>>>> reserving rooms at Pierpont Commons:
>>>>>>>>>> http://uunions.umich.edu/pierpont/meeting/events).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's what I know.  Feel free to ask me any questions about
>>>>>>>>>> concerns I didn't cover.
>>>>>>>>>> ~Birke
>>>>>>>>>> 4 years of UM Room Reserving Experience :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Malachy von Ulm via Barony <
>>>>>>>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:41:24PM -0400, Johannes Robbertszoon
>>>>>>>>>>> via Barony wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > We seem to be getting further from Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti. What
>>>>>>>>>>> about EMU or a restaurant in Ypsilanti (not the Corner too loud Brewery)? I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought we wanted it accessible to students. I love the idea if having
>>>>>>>>>>> workshops again.
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To give an idea about at least one venue's non-free costs:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ytown.org/index.php/community-center-rentals
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is somewhat perverse is that renting a wallyball room would
>>>>>>>>>>> fit the
>>>>>>>>>>> entire meeting comfortably for almost no cost.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm shy on time to followup and speak with people about possible
>>>>>>>>>>> discounts,
>>>>>>>>>>> but it might be worth someone's time to call ytown and see if
>>>>>>>>>>> they have
>>>>>>>>>>> either some sort of discount structure for non-profits or venue
>>>>>>>>>>> recommendations.  (Including squatting in their court for two
>>>>>>>>>>> hours.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Malachy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Ancient nightmares. Archaic legends.  Enigmatic dreams. All of
>>>>>>>>>>> it is true."
>>>>>>>>>>> Abney Park - All the Myths are True.
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