[Cynnabar] Changing the 100 Mile event rule- From KSen, February AS L

Greg Less via Barony barony at cynnabar.org
Wed Jan 27 14:18:35 UTC 2016


Unfortunately, I was unable to attend the Curia meeting in-person where
this was brought up and discussed. The phone connection was poor, at best,
so I am unable to currently offer any further insight as to *why* this is
being proposed. I can ask for more details though.

Thanks,
-Gregoire.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Elizabeth Calhoun via Barony <
barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:

> Unto All List Members:
>
> I don't exactly understand what recasting this "law" to 150 miles rather
> than 100 will likely do ... but I do note that according to one mileage
> calculator, Grand Rapids is 133 miles away, Kalamazoo, 100.  Port Huron is
> 98 ...
>
> That's a LOT of Pentamere potential events, in that 150 proposed miles!
>
> I don't believe that all events are GOOD events but I *also* think we
> should have the right to vote with our behavior which events we'll attend.
> Those events need to conform to a level of "worthiness" to be attended!  If
> the "marketplace" is artificially limited, then to a degree, no one is
> helped.
>
> I'd rather like to know more what's driving this initiative, the primary
> "stakeholders."
>
> In Service,
>
> Godaeth
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony <
> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Barony,
>> I look forward to more comment on this issue.  Why should you write about
>> it?  And why to the Baronial list?
>>
>>    - First, I hope discussion will produce greater light as many minds
>>    consider this issue.  Sharing here can spark a blending of ideas.
>>    - Second, Cynnabar produces 3 well regarded events, each with a
>>    strong core interest group.  Terpsichore and St Cecila's would both be
>>    considered special interest events by many people.  Grand Day of
>>    Tournaments is more of a "typical" SCA event, but has a few unique
>>    attractors that make it special.  Therefore, the Barony has a vested
>>    interest in how the decision about the distance change turns out, and in
>>    the process by which that decision is made.
>>    - Third, Cynnabar does great Kingdom level events.  We are respected
>>    for it. Others may want to hear from us.
>>    - Overall we have an excellent history of producing successful local,
>>    regional and Kingdom events. I think that you, the people who create those
>>    events, should be heard in this discussion.
>>
>> I believe a message from the Barony with arguments presented by members
>> of a group such as I described will be valued and listened to by the Curia.
>> If we have a consensus of opinion (and a minority report, too) it is our
>> duty to pass it on.
>>
>> In a week I will see what we have collected here, write a synopsis, get
>> your last comments, and send it as our collected advice to Crown and Curia.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Kay
>>
>>
>> *Kay Jarrell*
>>
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>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Melanie Schuessler Bond via Barony <
>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that this change would not be for the better.
>>>
>>> Melisant
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Anne Stevenson via Barony wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Gregoire that this may cause even more trouble with people
>>> booking up the calendar ahead of time.
>>>
>>> What I would like to see more is finding ways to help groups work
>>> together to put on events.  Then there would be more attendance, more staff
>>> and hopefully more opportunities for fun and engagement!
>>>
>>> Giovanna
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Greg Less via Barony <
>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mistress Kay -
>>>>
>>>>    There are pros and cons to this issue. The calendar is certainly
>>>> over-booked the way it is already, but reducing the number of events per
>>>> weekend by increasing the "do not compete" radius is simply going to
>>>> encourage the monolithic legacy events to get on the calendar further and
>>>> further in advance. Even if the kingdom starts restricting how far in
>>>> advance a group can book a weekend, I think that they will see a sudden
>>>> influx of reservations on the first available day.
>>>>
>>>>    A solution is needed, I'm just not sure that this is it.
>>>>
>>>> -Gregoire.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Kay Jarrell via Barony <
>>>> barony at cynnabar.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does Cynnabar have an opinion on this issue? If you want to add your
>>>>> thoughts to the advice I send Mistress Catriona please write.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in Pentamere this change would have a powerful affect. We have
>>>>> struggled with date conflicts just this year.
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate any input from those who do not feel strongly enough to
>>>>> write directly to The Seneschal, but have thoughts to express.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Kay
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: "The Midrealm Gazette" <donotreply at wordpress.com>
>>>>> Date: Jan 25, 2016 8:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: [New post] From the Kingdom Seneschal, February AS L
>>>>> To: <kjarrell at gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>
>>>>> admin posted: "Let’s talk about event scheduling. The Middle Kingdom
>>>>> is fortunate to have more than eighty local groups and thousands of
>>>>> members. Our longstanding law is groups are not typically allowed to hold
>>>>> events within 100 miles of one another. The kingdom Calend"
>>>>>
>>>>> New post on *The Midrealm Gazette*
>>>>> <http://www.midrealmgazette.org/?author=1> From the Kingdom
>>>>> Seneschal, February AS L
>>>>> <http://www.midrealmgazette.org/2016/01/25/from-the-kingdom-seneschal-february-as-l/> by
>>>>> admin <http://www.midrealmgazette.org/?author=1>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let’s talk about event scheduling.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Middle Kingdom is fortunate to have more than eighty local groups
>>>>> and thousands of members. Our longstanding law is groups are not typically
>>>>> allowed to hold events within 100 miles of one another. The kingdom
>>>>> Calendar Secretary is instructed to inform groups if an event is within 200
>>>>> miles and/or in the same region of an event that is already scheduled. The
>>>>> purpose is to help bring potential conflicts to mind. The intent is to help
>>>>> Shires and Baronies be aware they may be impacted in terms of attendance.
>>>>> Currently, groups are not prohibited if the events are scheduled at least
>>>>> 101 miles away from each other. However, a law change is under
>>>>> consideration to change the “100-mile rule” to 150 miles. Commentary,
>>>>> concerns, and discussion can be sent to me at seneschal at midrealm.org. Read
>>>>> more of this post
>>>>> <http://www.midrealmgazette.org/2016/01/25/from-the-kingdom-seneschal-february-as-l/#more-929>
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